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15th June 07, 07:16 PM
#1
Church Tartans
I know that there are a bunch of tartans out there for churches but I am looking for any that may be directly connected the Presbyterian church.
I am pretty sure that there are less than 20. but My youth pastor wants the youth group to spice up the church, he is also a kilt wearer. I am going to try and push like 3 or 4 yards of each of the Presbyterian tartans. I think (and he agrees) that it would look really cool if we had them all start at the center of the ceiling, and then follow along and drape down the walls. (keep in mind we are looking at I think 20 foot ceilings)
I tried google, but that gave me history and not so much tartans.
Thanks!
~Casey
[SIZE="1"]"It's the job thats never started that takes the longest to finish. Thats what my old Gaffer used to say." - Samwise Gamgie, J.R.R. Tolkein[/SIZE]
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15th June 07, 08:50 PM
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With a couple of exceptions, there are no denominational tartans, as far as I know. There is a tartan for one of the Episcopalian/Anglican denominations (rare and presumably quite expensive), and 2 tartans that were recently introduced by Samye Ling, a Buddhist monastery in the borders of southern Scotland.
There is a tartan for clergy, said to be the only occupational tartan, and it has several variations. Usually it is dark blue with black and white (ancient, modern, weathered, etc) but also has green and purple variations. One is black and white. However, it is said to be for all clergy, rather than any specific denomination.
Go to here and look for Clergy: http://www.house-of-tartan.scotland....se/tfinder.htm
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15th June 07, 09:11 PM
#3
Presbyterian tartan...
Matt Newsome has an article posted on his web site about the Clergy Tartan, which should clear some things up:
http://www.albanach.org/clergy_tartan.htm
Regards,
Todd
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16th June 07, 04:36 AM
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I should also say in addition to my article that there are some tartans newly designed for specific churches or groups of churches. For instance, there is a Baptist Union of Scotland tartan, designed in 2001. There is one for New Providence Presbyterian Church in Maryville, TN, designed in 2000. I want to say that I've seen a tartan for a particular group of Methodist churches but I cannot find that information at present.
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16th June 07, 12:22 PM
#5
Thanks!
now, is there a way to get a less expensive bolt of Clergy tartan (preferably not in wool) but be able to get it in like cotton polly blend (like a stillwater economy) in somewhere like 8-9 yards at a time?
I really don't know where to look for tartan fabric.
thanks!
~Casey
[SIZE="1"]"It's the job thats never started that takes the longest to finish. Thats what my old Gaffer used to say." - Samwise Gamgie, J.R.R. Tolkein[/SIZE]
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16th June 07, 05:46 PM
#6
See http://www.thescottishweaver.com/lig...ndtartans.html
7-8 oz yard wool clergy tartan, said to be ancient clergy, $42.95 per yard, 54 inches wide.
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16th June 07, 06:33 PM
#7
The Clark tartan is available from USAkilts, and it is actually based on the Clergy tartan so it is practically identical.
In fact, Clark means Clergyman, so you'd have no problem.
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16th June 07, 06:51 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by cwr89
Thanks!
now, is there a way to get a less expensive bolt of Clergy tartan (preferably not in wool) but be able to get it in like cotton polly blend (like a stillwater economy) in somewhere like 8-9 yards at a time?
I really don't know where to look for tartan fabric.
thanks!
~Casey
The Frugal Corner sells poly tartan material and Clark/Clergy tartan kilts. E-mail Mark for availability.
http://www.thefrugalcorner.com/
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16th June 07, 07:48 PM
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The Clark Tartan was 'taken' from the Clergy Tartan (also called "Priest") ;
'Clark' 'Clerk' comes from "Cleric" (Clergy).
The Clark clan 'comandeered' the Tartan which was brightly colored, the Protestant Calvinist/ Presbyterians felt the Clergy should have less frivolity so they began to mute the colors for Clergy, while the Clarks kept the brighter tartan.
"Clergy" is used by mpst Denominations, but some Catholics sometimes tend to maintain the original (older) brighter version - and are often confused with the Clark family, or the Clerks get mistaken for Clergy in Catholic Circles.
The Highlanders remained Catholic, while the Lowladers embraced John Knox's Presbyterianism, but both clergy used the same tartan nevertheless.
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16th June 07, 07:58 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by Ozman1944
The Clark Tartan was 'taken' from the Clergy Tartan (also called "Priest") ;
'Clark' 'Clerk' comes from "Cleric" (Clergy).
The Clark clan 'comandeered' the Tartan which was brightly colored, the Protestant Calvinist/ Presbyterians felt the Clergy should have less frivolity so they began to mute the colors for Clergy, while the Clarks kept the brighter tartan.
"Clergy" is used by mpst Denominations, but some Catholics sometimes tend to maintain the original (older) brighter version - and are often confused with the Clark family, or the Clerks get mistaken for Clergy in Catholic Circles.
The Highlanders remained Catholic, while the Lowladers embraced John Knox's Presbyterianism, but both clergy used the same tartan nevertheless.
Well...not exactly. There are a lot of myths associated with this tartan.
Lowland Presbyterians generally didn't embrace anything associated with the Highlanders, who were largely Roman Catholic or Episcopalian.
If you read Matt's article above, you'll find that the clergy tartan dates to the 1830's at the earliest. It's worth the read.
Regards,
Todd
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