The Mayflower

[Riverkilt]

For some folks it answers a lot of questions about me that my parents are 12th cousins. Both sides of my family have lines that go back to John Alden and Priscilla Mullins - as do probably thousands of other Americans, they were a most prolific couple.

Have never found a tartan that honors the Mayflower or the Mayflower Society. It makes sense since I don't think there were any Scots aboard.

Closest I've found is maybe the Dutch Friendship tartan since there were folks from Leyden on board.

Just checking in case I'm missing anything.

Thanks,

Ron

[SteveB]

Ron,
It is nice to know that there are Mayflower cousins on this board. There is no Mayflower tartan. Although some who sailed on the ship came from Leyden, Holland, they were not Dutch, but English who had escaped the wrath of the King, for not worshiping in the Church of England. They wished to worship the Lord in their own manner, and as the Dutch were a little more liberal, sought haven there for their chosen method of worship. As the King was making inroads politically with the gouvernment of Holland, the Seperatists took the opportunity to move further from the King by sailing to the northern parts of Virginia to settle a new English Colony. ( I do need to keep this as historical as possible so as to keep it within the board rules.) Although two of the Mayflower's crew supposedly were of Scot families, nothing has been proven. The Mayflower passengers had no Highland connections, and therefore no tartan. I do not believe there is an interest in one at present. If you are a member of the Mayflower Society, the General Congress meets this September 6th through 10th in Plymouth, Massachusetts. This is the forum in which the Society sets the form and policies for the next three years. I will be there.

SteveB
Congress Registrar
General Society of Mayflower Descendants

[Riverkilt]

Aye, understand they were English in Holland, hence the thought of the Dutch Friendship tartan.

Not a member of the Mayflower Society, but oft used their books to prove various lines of the family tree.

Ron

[SteveB]

Ron,
Gud on ya!
I am happy that you find the "silvers" useful in your genealogical quest. my spouse does the genealogical work for the Massachusetts Society as its Historian. He processes thirty of so applications a month. We run up and down a lot of family trees. Some of them resemble much the caber

[Riverkilt]

Steve,

Guess you'd appreciate these quick stories. When I was about eight my teacher assigned the class a project to find our genealogy. My maternal grandmother told me my grandfather had Mayflower lineage. The rest of the family scoffed. As a young adult something retriggered the interest and though there was a weak link, the line was eventually proven by a gravestone. So I was able to prove the line for her.

Later, it turned out my paternal grandmother's line went back to the same passengers - Alden and Mullins. I sent my parents a letter documenting that they were cousins. I got a near instant response from my mother saying, Thank God, now I can get an annullment!

Ron

[Galician]

Now I know whence you get your humor, Ron!

This post reminded me of an experience I had in Amsterdam. I went to see the old Beguinage there, out of an interest I've always had in that order. It is now a residence for older ladies, each one occupying the house which had belonged to a Sister of the order in earlier times.

The chapel, however, still stands in the middle of the courtyard around which the houses were built. When I entered it, I saw a stained glass window right over the altar. It was the famous image of the Pilgrims praying before their departure, and which I immediately recognized from my grade school history books!!! Apparently, after the beguines were expelled from the city, their chapel was given to the English Protestors as a meeting place.

[SteveB]

Ron and gang,
On my father's side I was able to prove rather easily, lineage back to Richard Warren of the Mayflower. Most of the family stayed here in Massachusetts where the records are very good--- and accessible. Two generations went up into Maine while it was still part of Massachusetts. Sorting out large numbers of people with the last name of Brown is like Hamish sorting out his kilts. it is work that is well worth doing. It is on my father's English heritage that I have found reasonable evidence of being Brown(e) of the Clan Lamont. My mother's side of the family, half came from Ireland and half from Holland. The settlers of New Amsterdam stayed loyal to the Crown during the American Revolution, and were relocated to New Brunswick by the Crown. Jacob Van Wart had six sons and three daughters. I descend from five sons and two of the daughters (Think Caber). The Irish side is about one quarter early Irish and three quarters "Planter's Stock" (Scot settlers sent by the Crown to civilize the Irish) From the family McNeilly, I get my line to Clan MacNeil of Barra.
Both are great looking tartans.
My spouse and I have researched the lines of a local gentleman that has over thirty-five lines back to sixteen passengers of the Mayflower.

For chasing the genealogy, try the Scottish Forum, or Scotlands Family Tree.

[Glen C]

Hey Ron, I guess were cousins then. My great-great grandfather (Thomas Chisholm) married a Hewitt a (Alden-Mullins) Mayflower family through their daughter Elizabeth back in the 1840's. They settled in Connecticut then Pennsylvania before opening up the Michigan territory. The Hewitt’s were scattered in England and Ireland, I wonder if they have a tartan?

[Riverkilt]

Cousins for sure Glen,

But boy, John Alden and Priscilla Mullins were a VERY prolific couple.

Sadly, most folks today think of the Mayflower pilgrims as dour folks dressed in somber black garb. NO WAY! Them was the Puritans who landed up at Boston about ten years later.

The folks on the Mayflower wore bright colorful garb, were party animals, and very friendly to each other. Good ol' John Alden was in charge of the beer on the ship. Guess water didn't keep well on the long haul so they drank beer.

Oh how I wish the idea that somehow the dour black clad Puritans were the Mayflower pilgrims would be corrected and we could celebrate Thanksgiving with a rollicking good time. Yeeeeehaaaa.

Ron
Who endeavors to carry on the Mayflower party tradition

[McFarkus]

On my father's side I'm descended from Mayflower passengers Thomas and Joseph Rogers and Stephen Hopkins.

On my mother's side I'm descended from Mayflower passengers Isaac Allerton, his second wife Fear Brewster and her parents William and Mary Brewster, Stephen Hopkins, John Howland and his wife Elizabeth Tilley and her parents John Tilley and Joan Hurst Rogers.

Neither of my parents were aware of this. My father's parents had done some genealogy work, but not traced it back very far. My mother's family which was from Virginia focused on the ancestor, Robert Beheathland, who came over to Jamestown on the first boat in 1607.