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                                                23rd March 09, 10:56 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			jacket names: where'd they come from
		
			
				
					I've read the recent threads about different styles of jackets, and I've learned some of the distinguishing characteristics between them. But, I was wondering recently why they have the names they have. For instance, did the Bonnie Prince really like a short jacket with heaps of buttons and so that style now bears his name? Did a Sheriff Muir happen to design the doublet that folks now wear in his memory? Was Mr. Graham particularly fond of his jabot and had a jacket made to show it off when he was parading around Montrose? I'm not trying to be funny here (sometimes I can't help it); I'm simply wondering if anyone knows why these jackets have the names they have. Anyone have any ideas?
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                                                23rd March 09, 05:45 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					This sounds like a job for Matt Newsome.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd March 09, 08:39 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			"I'll have a Wullie McNumpty coatee, please?"
		
			
				
					
	I think you will find that it is all about marketing-- all of the names refer to famous persons or events in Scottish history... The "Prince Charlie" coatee is pretty obvious.  Basically a Prince Charlie coatee is a modified tail coat.  Originally designed to be worn with trousers, some enterprising chap shortened the tails to make it more becoming with the kilt. Adding "Prince Charlie" to the name made it sound more Scottish, and less of a red-haired English step-child.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by piperdbh   I was wondering recently why jackets have the names they have. For instance, did the Bonnie Prince really like a short jacket with heaps of buttons and so that style now bears his name? Did a Sheriff Muir happen to design the doublet that folks now wear in his memory? Was Mr. Graham particularly fond of his jabot and had a jacket made to show it off when he was parading around Montrose?  
 The Sheriffmuir doublet is based on the styles of the 18th century, and is named after the Battle of Sheriffmuir which was fought on November 23, 1715 during the first Jacobite War. The Montrose doublet is named after The "Great Montrose", hero of the Civil War, and a staunch supporter of Charles I, who was hanged in Edinburgh in 1650.
 
 For some odd reason no one has yet marketed a "Cumberland" coatee...
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                24th March 09, 02:08 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					As MOR says the jacket names are mostly the creations of individual manufacturers to add a frisson of glamour to the article. Jackets such as Crail, Kenmore and Braemar are simply called after towns of that name, none of which have any tangible connection to the jacket named after them. In fact Crail is a small fishing village on the coast of Fife where kilt-wearing of any kind would have been unlikely in the extreme. The Montrose is also known as the Military doublet because of its similarity to the style worn by some 19th century regiments, although it is much simpler without the heavy gold braid ornamentation. Other jackets, again as MOR says, are loosely based on 18th century costumes and the tashes or Inverness flaps are thought to be a hangover from similar flaps on suits of armour.
				 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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