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                                                10th November 16, 01:32 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Lest we forget
		
			
				
					they shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
 At the going down of the sun and in the morning
 We will remember them."
 
 LEST WE fORGET.
 Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                10th November 16, 02:45 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I've been doing some thinking over the last couple of days.  I had the time to do that  because I was doing my bit as Padre to our branch of the Royal Canadian Legion, distributing  poppies at Loblaws.
 
 Some people said "I don't have any change;  I'll get you on the way out."  I offered them a poppy and said, "Here -  please wear it and catch me when you can or catch somebody else if I've  finished my shift."
 
 
 Some people said, "I already have one - it's on my jacket out in the car."  I offered them a poppy and said, "Here please wear one while you're in the store."
 
 
 Some people were wearing a poppy and put money in the box, saying "I  need to put more into the fund."  I thanked them for their contribution  and also for honouring our vets by wearing a poppy.
 
 
 One of the  best moment for me was three very little Muslim kids who each put in a  nickel and said, with serious eyes "For Canada soldier"  I thanked them  with equal gravity and gave them each a poppy.  I also gave their Mamma  one, which she pinned on her hijab.  I thanked her too - for teaching  her children so well.
 
 
 People make a false connection between  putting in a contribution to the Poppy Fund and wearing a poppy.   They're two different things.  The contribution is to help those who  came back.  The poppy is to honour those who didn't.
 
 
 Yes, the contribution is welcome, but please wear your poppy too.  They're for two different groups of veterans.
 
 
 Father Bill White,
 Padre, Branch 501
 Royal Canadian Legion
 Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                10th November 16, 03:29 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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				" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants".  Field Marshal Lord Slim.
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                10th November 16, 04:12 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					To all the Veterans and current military members on this site, Thank You for your Service.
				 
				
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                                                10th November 16, 04:34 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					In Flanders Fields 
 In Flanders fields the poppies blow
 Between the crosses, row on row,
 That mark our place: and in the sky
 The larks still bravely singing fly
 Scarce heard amid the guns below.
 
 We are the dead: Short days ago,
 We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
 Loved and were loved: and now we lie
 In Flanders fields!
 
 Take up our quarrel with the foe
 To you, from failing hands, we throw
 The torch: be yours to hold it high
 If ye break faith with us who die,
 We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
 In Flanders fields
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                10th November 16, 07:12 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					When I was growing up in the US we had parades and picnics on Veterans day. On Memorial day we visited cemeteries and put flags on the graves.
 When I moved up here to Canada everything was very different.  Each year on the 11th day of the 11th month the entire country seems to gather at cenotaphs and memorials.  There is a nationwide two minutes of silence precisely at the 11th hour.
 
 For a guy like me this was very strange.  About like the current "Thank you for your service" that seems to come from everyone now.
 When I came home from my first war I was spit on at the airport.  You learned very quickly to do anything that would let you blend into the crowd, not to stand out as having been 'one of them'.
 
 I came home from my second war and no one even noticed.  I was on a flight with some flag draped coffins but they were taken off the plane in a hanger away from sight.
 
 I have to admit that all the poppies and the older guys wearing their medals and  ribbons on this one day leaves me just a little embarrassed.  Until very recently it had never occurred to me to wear a poppy to remember.  I could never forget, but I was taught that you never, ever, let that show.
 
 I'm still a bit taken aback. My friends are always with me.  Every day. But you can never explain that to anyone else.  Sometimes not even to those who were with you then.
 
 I will always remember the first time I visited 'The Wall'.  I was still on active duty so wore full uniform.  I stood there looking at the familiar names.  No one said a word.  Those in front would quietly step back after a while to let those waiting have some time, but it was all done in silence.
 Then while walking away I happen to pass a small stall offering veterans flyers and information.  The guy in the stall was wearing a ball cap with a unit crest on it.  As I passed he quietly said "Welcome home".  That was the first time anyone had ever said that in almost 20 years since stepping off that plane from Viet-Nam.
 
 But I could not let it show how that one simple act affected me.  I walked on a ways till out of his sight and sat on a bench.
 
 I still feel uncomfortable wearing a poppy.  Why only on this one day?  I don't ever want, or could, forget.  I don't need a poppy to remember.
 
 But I do wear one. I wear it for those who don't have someone to remember them.
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                10th November 16, 07:34 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thank you for that, Steve.
				 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                10th November 16, 11:09 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Oh, and as an aside. Just in case you see me on the street.  You may not, at first, see my poppy.  
 I have noticed and heard quite a few people commenting that they are wearing a poppy because everyone else seems to be wearing one. They don't want to be seen as not 'with it'.
 I don't wear a poppy as a badge for the other people on the street. I don't wear it as a fashion statement.
 
 My poppy is worn inside. On my shirt. Just above the left breast pocket.
 
				
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                                                11th November 16, 01:13 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Well said Father Bill......and I won't forget it
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Father Bill   I've been doing some thinking over the last couple of days.  I had the time to do that  because I was doing my bit as Padre to our branch of the Royal Canadian Legion, distributing  poppies at Loblaws.
 
 Some people said "I don't have any change;  I'll get you on the way out."  I offered them a poppy and said, "Here -  please wear it and catch me when you can or catch somebody else if I've  finished my shift."
 
 
 Some people said, "I already have one - it's on my jacket out in the car."  I offered them a poppy and said, "Here please wear one while you're in the store."
 
 
 Some people were wearing a poppy and put money in the box, saying "I  need to put more into the fund."  I thanked them for their contribution  and also for honouring our vets by wearing a poppy.
 
 
 One of the  best moment for me was three very little Muslim kids who each put in a  nickel and said, with serious eyes "For Canada soldier"  I thanked them  with equal gravity and gave them each a poppy.  I also gave their Mamma  one, which she pinned on her hijab.  I thanked her too - for teaching  her children so well.
 
 
 People make a false connection between  putting in a contribution to the Poppy Fund and wearing a poppy.   They're two different things.  The contribution is to help those who  came back.  The poppy is to honour those who didn't.
 
 
 Yes, the contribution is welcome, but please wear your poppy too.  They're for two different groups of veterans.
 
 
 Father Bill White,
 Padre, Branch 501
 Royal Canadian Legion
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                11th November 16, 04:00 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I think it's only right to mention that "The Fallen" and the damaged that the poppy represents is for The servicemen and civilians who died and suffered in many and various capacities representing  their country within the then British Empire in both World Wars and conflicts since. This is still represented in the Commonwealth and some outwith the Commonwealth today and as such, many, many religions and those with no religion, are all represented on November 11th "Poppy Day".
				 
				
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