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4th April 07, 06:12 PM
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New SWK MacTavish and Thorfin sporran!
here is a closup of my new Thorfin Sporran over my new SWK MacTavish standard kilt.
![](http://www.kiltsrock.com/thorfin1.jpg)
(I had a few full shots, but upon review...they suck. I'll have better pics up soon)
a review of the sporran is will follow!
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4th April 07, 06:18 PM
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4th April 07, 06:21 PM
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SWK MacTavish? What did I miss??
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4th April 07, 06:29 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Tattoobradley
SWK MacTavish? What did I miss??
(insert evil laughter here)![Twisted Evil](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif)
ok...I called looking for a kilt, and they had some MacTavish left over from a previous order...and VIOLA! here it is!
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4th April 07, 06:35 PM
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Ahhh. I see. Is this the MacTavish you've been talking about? Or do you have another one coming? Tell us about the one in the picture. You said "standard" so, does that mean it's acrylic?
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4th April 07, 06:39 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Tattoobradley
Ahhh. I see. Is this the MacTavish you've been talking about? Or do you have another one coming? Tell us about the one in the picture. You said "standard" so, does that mean it's acrylic?
hmm..it is ONE of the MacTavish's I've mentioned. Yes, it is acrylic.
the other MacTavish I've mentioned was ordered from House of Celts, and will be constructed by the House of Edgar. 8 yards, 13 oz wool. I've found it hard to find this tartan as it is considered rare since the MacTavish clan has only registered it's arms with the Lord Lyon within the past 20 years. I'll expound upon that later when I have completed my research.
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4th April 07, 07:38 PM
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5th April 07, 03:44 AM
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OT: Lyon & registering tartans...
I've found it hard to find this tartan as it is considered rare since the MacTavish clan has only registered it's arms with the Lord Lyon within the past 20 years. I'll expound upon that later when I have completed my research.
I just want to point out that Lord Lyon really has nothing to do with tartans per se. To paraphrase Matt, The Lyon Court does not register them, although they do "record" them. Tartans & Heraldry are not interchangable:
http://www.albanach.org/official.htm
The great MacTavish/Campbell feud, however, is a whole different "kettle of fish".
Cheers, ![Cheers!](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif)
Todd
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5th April 07, 04:29 AM
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Ditto what Todd said. A clan chief posessing Arms really has no bearing on the existence (or availability of) a tartan. For instance, Spalding has had Arms forever, but you'll find no Spalding tartan. On the other hand, you'll find plenty of tartans that have been designed for non-armigerous families.
In any case, the two things are different, so it's like comparing apples to oranges.
But I wanted to write about the MacTavish tartan being "rare." Not the one in your picture. Just about every woolen mill does this one, sometimes in a variety of weights. For instance, Ingles Buchan does it in a tie weight. Lochcarron does it in a 10 oz and a 16 oz fabric. It is actually pretty easy to find, as far as tartans go.
One thing to keep in mind is that "MacTavish" and "Thompson" can be used interchangably to refer to the same tartan. So if you don't see it listed under one name, look under the other. There is a red version of the tartan, a blue version, a brown, a grey, etc. Usually the red version is sold under the name "MacTavish" and the others are sold under the name 'Thompson", but this is not universally true.
House of Edgar, in their 13 oz cloth, does produce a variation of the MacTavish from 1850 as part of their "old and rare" line, and as far as I know are the only mill producing it. So maybe this is the one you mention? It is quite different from the usual one (seen in your picture).
On another note, about your sporran, I really like how the portion of the tartan used in the flap corresponds to the portion that would be behind the sporran on the kilt (only on the bias). I like it! I don't think it would have looked as good, however, if a different part of the tartan was used. Was this intentionally done, or just a happy coincidence?
Aye,
Matt
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5th April 07, 04:44 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
Ditto what Todd said. A clan chief posessing Arms really has no bearing on the existence (or availability of) a tartan. For instance, Spalding has had Arms forever, but you'll find no Spalding tartan. On the other hand, you'll find plenty of tartans that have been designed for non-armigerous families.
In any case, the two things are different, so it's like comparing apples to oranges.
But I wanted to write about the MacTavish tartan being "rare." Not the one in your picture. Just about every woolen mill does this one, sometimes in a variety of weights. For instance, Ingles Buchan does it in a tie weight. Lochcarron does it in a 10 oz and a 16 oz fabric. It is actually pretty easy to find, as far as tartans go.
One thing to keep in mind is that "MacTavish" and "Thompson" can be used interchangably to refer to the same tartan. So if you don't see it listed under one name, look under the other. There is a red version of the tartan, a blue version, a brown, a grey, etc. Usually the red version is sold under the name "MacTavish" and the others are sold under the name 'Thompson", but this is not universally true.
House of Edgar, in their 13 oz cloth, does produce a variation of the MacTavish from 1850 as part of their "old and rare" line, and as far as I know are the only mill producing it. So maybe this is the one you mention? It is quite different from the usual one (seen in your picture).
On another note, about your sporran, I really like how the portion of the tartan used in the flap corresponds to the portion that would be behind the sporran on the kilt (only on the bias). I like it! I don't think it would have looked as good, however, if a different part of the tartan was used. Was this intentionally done, or just a happy coincidence?
Aye,
Matt
thanks for the info Gents...I'm stil researching the family line and reasons for a lack of recording.
anyway, the section of tartan used was decided by Turpin, and he did a great job!
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