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    Subjected to 'racial abuse' while kilted - sorry if length and/or content offends

    Hi All,
    I would like to relate to you an experience that I had a couple of weeks back. Given that this is a family forum I will do my best to censor the language, but please forgive me if anyone finds this offensive.

    My wife and I attended a concert in the centre of Sydney and had drinks and nibbles with a couple we hadn’t seen for a few years. It was a great concert (Paul Kelly, one of Australia’s finest, IMHO) and we had a lovely time catching up with our friends. I was wearing my Cornish National tank with black Dr Martens, white T-shirt & black leather jacket – nothing but positive comments all evening, that is until we were on our way home.

    While waiting to cross the road to the train station, I heard an extremely aggressive voice snarl the words, “William Wallace was a skirt-wearing f*****!” It was clear to me that this was not somebody ‘paying me out’ – this was somebody in an extremely agitated state.

    I turned around to see five young guys of, to use TV newspeak “Middle Eastern appearance” walking towards me: the smallest of them being the one who had made the comment. The other four didn’t say a word, they just grabbed their aggro little and tried to get him to keep walking. He broke away from them and started approaching me again so I (in retrospect, perhaps unwisely) put my hands on my hips and said to him, with a smile, “Little boy, when you get home you can tell your mother that you saw a real man tonight.” I then winked at him and said, “She’ll know who you’re talking about.”

    Not surprisingly, this made him even more agitated, but he wasn’t game to come any closer than about five metres. His mates were nowhere to be seen, apart from one who came back to grab him and hold up his hand as if to placate me and stop his little pal from getting thumped. (I might add that I was having a great night and had no intention of thumping anybody, but would certainly have defended myself from a physical attack if necessary.)

    The best my little ‘friend’ could come up with was to (rather predictably), grab his crutch and spit the immortal words, “Oh, yeah! Well your mother’s had my big Middle Eastern **** in her ****!” Now, a comment like that is likely to make the blood of a teenage boy boil, but being almost 40, and realising I was engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed ‘man’, I simply laughed at him and said (and I mean must stress here that this is the first time in my life that I have ever stooped to making a comment that could be regarded as racist ) words to the effect that I now new for sure that he was full of BS, because there is no such thing as a “big Middle Eastern ****”, apart from the one on his shoulders.

    As his friend dragged him off (and I must add that he wasn’t really making much of an effort to break free and attack me) all he could do was remind me that just as William Wallace was a skirt-wearing f*****, so was I. By this time, the other pedestrians waiting to cross the road realised there was not going to be an act of violence committed, and began to laugh at my would-be attacker, and congratulate me on standing up to a thug.

    My wife chastised me gently for not simply ignoring the initial comment – which would have been the best course of action I suppose – but couldn’t help laughing about the fact that the little bloke had become even more aggressive than when he started, and obviously wouldn’t be able to count on his mates backing him up if he picked the wrong guy next time.

    Stay safe,

    Troy

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    I think you did pretty well. The thing I like to do in situations like this, is laugh at them. Sure, that can piss them off more, but when they are pissed, they aren't using their brain, and they are easier to beat!

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    You did fine. A lot of other people would have said something a bit more on his level and might have kept antagonzing him. He is insecure and felt like putting someone down to make himself feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean_the_Kilted View Post
    You did fine. A lot of other people would have said something a bit more on his level and might have kept antagonzing him. He is insecure and felt like putting someone down to make himself feel better.
    I couldn't have said it better myself. There's no greater handicap than a closed mind.

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    Well handled. Anybody who behaves as this little fellow did obviously suffers from chronic inadequacy and you did the right thing in realising this rather than letting it get to you.
    Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.

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    I offer this comment as a member, not a moderator.

    By his actions, the fellow you encountered was no gentleman.

    He provoked you, and you responded.

    The racial slur you made brought you to the level of this unpleasant person and was an insult to not only him but the people accompanying him.

    I think that just walking on would have been the best course of action.

    If I had responded to the comment “William Wallace was a skirt-wearing f*****!” it would have been to say "William Wallace didn't wear a kilt, READ A BOOK!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    I offer this comment as a member, not a moderator.


    The racial slur you made brought you to the level of this unpleasant person and was an insult to not only him but the people accompanying him.

    Respectfully

    Jamie
    Indeed, Sir, you are correct. I must admit that I was a little disappointed in myself for retorting in what would be perceived by most people as a racist manner - even though I was simply turning his braggadiccio back on him, my words should have been chosen more carefully.

    While simply ignoring the little twit to start with may have been a better option overall, I believe that there are some times when bullies need to be stood up to and be made to look like the idiots they are (even if it sometimes requires one to momentarily stoop to their level).

    Regards,

    Troy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    I offer this comment as a member, not a moderator.



    If I had responded to the comment “William Wallace was a skirt-wearing f*****!” it would have been to say "William Wallace didn't wear a kilt, READ A BOOK!"

    Respectfully

    Jamie
    Again, Jamie, you are correct. A similar retort came to me about five minutes after the event - ahh, that old 20/20 hindsight thing again.

    Cheers,

    Troy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Again, Jamie, you are correct. A similar retort came to me about five minutes after the event - ahh, that old 20/20 hindsight thing again.

    Cheers,

    Troy
    The retort "READ A BOOK" I got from a TV cartoon of the Comic book "The Tick". I have found that it applies to a wide and varied number of idiots in all manner of situations.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    The retort "READ A BOOK" I got from a TV cartoon of the Comic book "The Tick". I have found that it applies to a wide and varied number of idiots in all manner of situations.

    Cheers

    Jamie
    It's a good one - versatile, snappy, and very hard to misinterpret.

    I have to admit that my "when you get home you can tell your mother that today you saw a real man" line (which I happen to think was quite funny) is not entirely original: the story goes that during the Great War a young British officer came across a battle-hardened Australian private who refused to salute. When challenged, the Aussie stood up and patted the officer on the shoulder and said, "Son, when you get home you can tell your mother that today you met a real soldier".

    Cheers,

    Troy

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