Original new regimental kilts for sale

**elrond** · 27th March 08, 09:09 AM

Surfing the net today I've found this site that has on sale some original regimental kilts from military surplus.
They don't have my actual size (as usual...) and I'm still loosing weight, so it is not the right moment for me to buy, but I thought that it could be interesting for some "thinner member" of the forum.

this is the link
http://www.qcmilitaria.com/kilts.htm

Ciao!

**Dirk Skene** · 27th March 08, 09:12 AM

My only problem with ordering from "The Continent" is that the shipping charges are a killer

**SportBilly** · 27th March 08, 09:15 AM

Great, now I've got to try to find 150 quid from down the couch so I can buy a Liverpool Scottish kilt (had family who served in that Regiment back as far as the Boer War). Something tells me this ain't gonna be easy...

Thanks for the link though!

**Finn** · 27th March 08, 09:16 AM

Wow. Are the colors on the site off?

**elrond** · 27th March 08, 09:23 AM

Yes, but you should not to pay the VAT (17% or 20%), so the price should be less than what appear... If I'm right.
I've seen it in some eusopean websites of e-commerce. However it is better to ask them for this.
I usually order form USA (amerikilt or others) and I don't pay so much for delivery. Sometimes aour customs police forget to let me pay the vat and the taxes, so it is even better!!!

However we have to consider the amount of the shipping in front of the cost of the goods.
I usually do these considerations before buying.

Ciao!

**beloitpiper** · 27th March 08, 09:24 AM

That's cool, but I think I'll stick with What Price Glory

**elrond** · 27th March 08, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by beloitpiper

That's cool, but I think I'll stick with What Price Glory

I'm obliged to buy there too, (even if they are not original military surplus) because of my size.... still too fat!!!

**Nanook** · 27th March 08, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by beloitpiper

That's cool, but I think I'll stick with What Price Glory

Why? The kilts featured on that page are the "real thing"(tm): completely hand made by expert Scottish regimental kilt makers to regimental patterns using woolen cloth from Robert Noble. The WPG kilts are: made in Pakistan by Pakistani kilt makers using Pakistani cloth to patterns that are not in alignment with the patterns as once used by the army. They are a reasonable reproduction for film and television (where nobody can tell the difference) or re-enactment groups but compared more closely they are large leagues apart. At such similar price points (if they fit), why settle or much less? Kilts like those won't ever be made again. The cloth (they have gone over to using cheaper worsted cloth), workmanship (the army kilts, at least, are now machine sewn) and patterns are now all history. One can get some surplus cloth and there are army kiltmakers still around but the cost to have one made will be several times this amount and it might be as good but not better.

**beloitpiper** · 27th March 08, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Nanook

Why? The kilts featured on that page are the "real thing"(tm): completely hand made by expert Scottish regimental kilt makers to regimental patterns using woolen cloth from Robert Noble. The WPG kilts are: made in Pakistan by Pakistani kilt makers using Pakistani cloth to patterns that are not in alignment with the patterns as once used by the army. They are a reasonable reproduction for film and television (where nobody can tell the difference) or re-enactment groups but compared more closely they are large leagues apart. At such similar price points (if they fit), why settle or much less? Kilts like those won't ever be made again. The cloth (they have gone over to using cheaper worsted cloth), workmanship (the army kilts, at least, are now machine sewn) and patterns are now all history. One can get some surplus cloth and there are army kiltmakers still around but the cost to have one made will be several times this amount and it might be as good but not better.

WPG kilts may be made in Pakistan, but the Gordon one I have is really, really good. Heavy, thick wool with lots of thick pleats and good stitching. Look at the photos on the "real deal" site, the buckles and straps are even the same!!! It is also HALF the price as the "real deal" kilts. I won't argue that the others are good quality, because they probably are, but I am arguing that WPG kilts are very good, if not as good.

You know what...after looking through the site, I'm not entirely convinced that those items are military surplus. Either WPG is really good at reproducing military items, or they are the same products...

**Nervous Jock** · 27th March 08, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by beloitpiper

You know what...after looking through the site, I'm not entirely convinced that those items are military surplus. Either WPG is really good at reproducing military items, or they are the same products...

The NSN on the Black Watch Kilt is genuine however the labeling differs slightly, as I've had mine for a number of years its possible this is a new manufacturer, the waist band, loops and buckles are the same. I've asked on another forum for confirmation.

TBO I don't know why some of you guys get so excited about these kilts as the material, while heavy, is not the most comfortable to wear.