This can't be right...

[Thunderbolt]

http://nonjatta.blogspot.com/2007/11/yoichi-1987.html


A Japanese single malt is the world's best scotch 2008??

What has the world come to?

However, the pictoral thread by Pour1malt shows that Talsiker is totally automated now....

Maybe they should take a hint?

:facepalm: :facepalm:

Thunderbolt

[Jock Scot]

I have a feeling that you are correct in what you say.

[puddlemuddle]

Sorry,had asked a question...but answered it myself..
Cheers,
Chad

[cessna152towser]

Opening the link it does say it won an award for the world's best Whisky, but I cannot see any claim to being the best Scotch.

[Jock Scot]

Opening the link it does say it won an award for the world's best Whisky, but I cannot see any claim to being the best Scotch.

Aha! There speaks a man with a legal brain! Well done,Alex. Phew!

[Thunderbolt]

Opening the link it does say it won an award for the world's best Whisky, but I cannot see any claim to being the best Scotch.

Man, I hope you're right......

[ForresterModern]

Since, by legal definition, to be called Scotch Whisky, the brew must be made from scottish natural waters and be rested in used barrels for at least 3 years ON SCOTTISH SOIL, I wonder just exactly what scottish distillery(ies) are performing the primary distilling, casking and aging, and where. There has to be some kind of paper trail as to where this stuff originates from before being shipped over to Japan for the final aging, tapping and bottling as a Japanese Scotch, be it single malt or blended. To be called single malt, the whisky has to come from a single distillery and a single batch group from that distillery (although multiple barrels from that batch are blended together, usually diluted and then sold as "single malt"---unless bottled at "cask strength", which is straight from the cask un blended and undiluted).

[davedove]

Since, by legal definition, to be called Scotch Whisky, the brew must be made from scottish natural waters and be rested in used barrels for at least 3 years ON SCOTTISH SOIL, I wonder just exactly what scottish distillery(ies) are performing the primary distilling, casking and aging, and where. There has to be some kind of paper trail as to where this stuff originates from before being shipped over to Japan for the final aging, tapping and bottling as a Japanese Scotch, be it single malt or blended. To be called single malt, the whisky has to come from a single distillery and a single batch group from that distillery (although multiple barrels from that batch are blended together, usually diluted and then sold as "single malt"---unless bottled at "cask strength", which is straight from the cask un blended and undiluted).

Actually, that's not completely correct. It is true for Scotland and probably the EU, but not other places, because it would be unenforcible. Now, most places in the US won't call the product Scotch out of professional courtesy, but it's not a law. I have no idea about the legalities in Japan, but I suspect it is the same.

It's just like Champagne, or any of the other designated products of Europe (wine, cheese, etc.). Any US producer can call their product champagne and not break the law, but most producers won't out of respect. Of course, they could never sell their product in Europe with that name.

[ForresterModern]

Actually, that's not completely correct. It is true for Scotland and probably the EU, but not other places, because it would be unenforcible. Now, most places in the US won't call the product Scotch out of professional courtesy, but it's not a law. I have no idea about the legalities in Japan, but I suspect it is the same.

It's just like Champagne, or any of the other designated products of Europe (wine, cheese, etc.). Any US producer can call their product champagne and not break the law, but most producers won't out of respect. Of course, they could never sell their product in Europe with that name.

Just took a second gander at the article and did a search online. Turns out that if you read the article they describe the whisky in question as single malt whiskey, not single malt scotch. A search online turns up an extensive list at www.whiskymag.com ( http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/type...ngle_malt.html ) of what are called Japanese Whisky's, and that nearly all are made in Japan, except for a group made by

The Scotch Malt Whisky Society (Scotland)
The Vaults
87 St Giles Street
Leith
Edinburgh
Midlothian
EH6 6EZ
Scotland

and obviously imported.


And by the way you can "patent" a product with a unique place name of origin. For instance, Roquefort cheese (bleu cheese for those heathens among us) originated in caves in Roquefort France. Only cheese actually aged in those specific caves outside Roquefort can legally carry the name Roquefort cheese. In other places it is known by various other names---Italy is Gorgonzola, England is Stilton, and in the US plain old bleu (or blue) cheese. So I think the Scotch name issue might be correct.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

It's just like Champagne, or any of the other designated products of Europe (wine, cheese, etc.). Any US producer can call their product champagne and not break the law, but most producers won't out of respect. Of course, they could never sell their product in Europe with that name.

They can hardly sell their products in Europe at all due to incredibly high tariffs placed on alcohol, etc., entering the EU from the USA.

And speaking as a champagne drinker, the overall best (price & consistent quality) in the USA is the the Roederer "champagne" from their California vineyards. And if you can find it, the California Roederer "Hermitage" is one of the best drinks on the planet. In fact, it's so good that I think I'll crack a bottle right now.