Day/Laird's Plaid

[MacCathmhaoil]

Does anyone recall seeing instructions on how to wear a day or Laird's plaid? I remember coming across instructions on some web site sometime ago but for the life of me I cannot recall where. I am specifically looking for the instructions regarding wearing the plaid wrapped across the chest and then draped over the shoulders.


John

[Monkey@Arms]

I do not believe that is how one is worn, a day plaid is just slung over the shoulder. I think you are looking for directions for a Piper's Plaid.

Best regards,

Jake

[davidlpope]

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http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...y-plaid-45605/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-plaids-45488/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...y-plaid-54361/

[BobsYourUncle]

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The second and third threads listed above both refer to Matt Newsome's blog entry about laird's plaids, found here: http://kiltmaker.blogspot.com/2008/0...ats-plaid.html.

Monkey at Arms and Thistledown have correctly pointed out that the broach is not worn with the laird's plaid, only with a piper's plaid or a fly plaid. If you want instructions on how to wear a piper's plaid, they can be found in the manuals of the Regimental Drum Major's Association Pipe Band Dress Manual, here in PDF: http://drummajor.net/documents/RDMADressManualv2_5.pdf

The Appendix has a description and photos about how to tie it on and pin the broach, but you have to go all the way to the end of the document.

If I may, even though I have actually worn a fly plaid to formal evening events, I felt it a bit naaf and was self conscious about it, and I don't do it regularly. Our Scots members can speak for themselves, but the impression I get from comments in other threads on this forum is that to a Scot's eye and sensibility, the fly plaid is not really a correct item of Scottish dress, is a bit of a kilt rental shop invention, is a bit overly affected, and is best not done.

Having offended many, I am sure, I will apologize in advance...but I feel that a bit of a warning is in order here...Cheers, BYU

[Cygnus]

If I may, even though I have actually worn a fly plaid to formal evening events, I felt it a bit naaf and was self conscious about it, and I don't do it regularly. Our Scots members can speak for themselves, but the impression I get from comments in other threads on this forum is that to a Scot's eye and sensibility, the fly plaid is not really a correct item of Scottish dress, is a bit of a kilt rental shop invention, is a bit overly affected, and is best not done.

Having offended many, I am sure, I will apologize in advance...but I feel that a bit of a warning is in order here...Cheers, BYU

My thought on the fly plaid is that it should only be worn if you want to draw as much attention as possible to yourself. Situations where this would be done are few and far between, of course (e.g., as the groom at a wedding).
I don't get the impression that they're greatly maligned, just little used for the reason above. I, for one, would be quite embarrassed if I showed up to a wedding in a fly plaid if the groom himself weren't wearing one or if none of the other guests were.

I like the look of fly plaids and plaids in general, but they do seem like they'd be quite a nuisance to wear.

[Geoff Withnell]

My thought on the fly plaid is that it should only be worn if you want to draw as much attention as possible to yourself. Situations where this would be done are few and far between, of course (e.g., as the groom at a wedding).
I don't get the impression that they're greatly maligned, just little used for the reason above. I, for one, would be quite embarrassed if I showed up to a wedding in a fly plaid if the groom himself weren't wearing one or if none of the other guests were.

I like the look of fly plaids and plaids in general, but they do seem like they'd be quite a nuisance to wear.

I wondered myself how much bother a day plaid would be. I recently bought a USAK Casual in Albannach tartan. Michele loved the tartan, so we bought some material from Rocky and Michele made herself a skirt and sash. She had lots of material, so she made me a plaid, about 40" x 60". We went to the PA Ren Faire this weekend. Albnnach was playing, so of course we wore the new outfits. It was just a little cool, so I wore the plaid over my shoulder all day. I'm told it looked good by several people (including Jamesie!). Wasn't any bother at all.

I know, I know... photos coming when I can download the camera.

Geoff Withnell

[Andrew M. Stewart]

If I may, even though I have actually worn a fly plaid to formal evening events, I felt it a bit naaf and was self conscious about it, and I don't do it regularly. Our Scots members can speak for themselves, but the impression I get from comments in other threads on this forum is that to a Scot's eye and sensibility, the fly plaid is not really a correct item of Scottish dress, is a bit of a kilt rental shop invention, is a bit overly affected, and is best not done.

Having offended many, I am sure, I will apologize in advance...but I feel that a bit of a warning is in order here...Cheers, BYU

No offense taken but when you look at the tartan history books the whole notion of wearing ones "Clan Tartan" its all a fairly resent invention from the late 18th century.
I wear a fly plaid when I'm piping for a black tie occasion. It's got an old school look to it that I like when it's done right. I took this picture in front of a mirror so keep in mind that it's backwards.


Here is Archie MacNeil, The famous blind piper, wearing a fly plaid.


Here is John MacDonald of Inverness (A god to serious pipers) wearing a fly plaid.



Here is Robert Nicol, one of the Famous Bobs of Balmoral. (Royal Pipers) wearing one.



and in this picture is G.S. McLennan, a genius of a composer, and my hero. I think he's wearing one as well but I could be wrong.



As I said, no offense taken at all but I think that when it's worn right ie: good quality tartan not hire shop light weight fabric it can look good.

[Andrew M. Stewart]

Here is the great piper Malcolm MacPherson otherwise known as Calum Piobair wearing a day plaid.

[JSFMACLJR]

No offense taken but when you look at the tartan history books the whole notion of wearing ones "Clan Tartan" its all a fairly resent invention from the late 18th century.
I wear a fly plaid when I'm piping for a black tie occasion. It's got an old school look to it that I like when it's done right. I took this picture in front of a mirror so keep in mind that it's backwards.


Here is Archie MacNeil, The famous blind piper, wearing a fly plaid.


Here is John MacDonald of Inverness (A god to serious pipers) wearing a fly plaid.



Here is Robert Nicol, one of the Famous Bobs of Balmoral. (Royal Pipers) wearing one.



and in this picture is G.S. McLennan, a genius of a composer, and my hero. I think he's wearing one as well but I could be wrong.



As I said, no offense taken at all but I think that when it's worn right ie: good quality tartan not hire shop light weight fabric it can look good.

Could not some or all of these old photos show a belted plaid, rather than a fly plaid? One photo in particular definitely shows the belted plaid:

[Red Stag]

The next question is how does one wear badges or medals with a plaid?