A grant in honor and matriculation

[Bluescelt]

I have just collected all certified marriage and birth docs to petion the Lord Lyon for a grant in memory of my Scottish born great grandfather and to matriculate them for myself. Can I do this all at the same time or do I need to get the first grant done and then reapply when that's complete? They don't specify the logistics of that from what I've seen and that would take upwards of 2 years.

[Chas]

My understanding, is that you can do them both at the same time. Otherwise you would have two documents (the grant & the matriculation), which would be twice the price.

When it comes to the artwork stage, you don't have to have the Lord Lyon's painter; there are others. The standard artwork can leave a lot to be desired. John Duncan of Sketraw (a member here) won't display his grant, because it is so badly done. You can see where they painted the shield incorrectly and then touched it up to make it right.

John will be able to give you better advice, PM me if you want his email address.

Regards

Chas

[JSFMACLJR]

My understanding, is that you can do them both at the same time. Otherwise you would have two documents (the grant & the matriculation), which would be twice the price.

When it comes to the artwork stage, you don't have to have the Lord Lyon's painter; there are others. The standard artwork can leave a lot to be desired. John Duncan of Sketraw (a member here) won't display his grant, because it is so badly done. You can see where they painted the shield incorrectly and then touched it up to make it right.

John will be able to give you better advice, PM me if you want his email address.

Regards

Chas

One has certain leeway in the selection of Court Painter, but it might add significant time to the process.

[Gregmc]

My understanding, is that you can do them both at the same time. Otherwise you would have two documents (the grant & the matriculation), which would be twice the price.

When it comes to the artwork stage, you don't have to have the Lord Lyon's painter; there are others. The standard artwork can leave a lot to be desired. John Duncan of Sketraw (a member here) won't display his grant, because it is so badly done. You can see where they painted the shield incorrectly and then touched it up to make it right.

John will be able to give you better advice, PM me if you want his email address.

Regards

Chas

As for artwork; I say go with Anthony Wood, he's the best there is. Niel Bromley is a close second

[JSFMACLJR]

As for artwork; I say go with Anthony Wood, he's the best there is. Niel Bromley is a close second

Great artists, but more in the English style of heraldic painting.

[creagdhubh]

Great artists, but more in the English style of heraldic painting.

Quite. And there is a difference in style and overall aesthetic. Roderick Gordon Macpherson is personally one of my favourites - and not just because he is a Macpherson, and an active member of the Clan Macpherson Association.

[Gregmc]

Great artists, but more in the English style of heraldic painting.

They paint Scots arms as well. Who do you like?

[JSFMACLJR]

They paint Scots arms as well. Who so you like?

Oh, I'm not disputing that! One of the best heraldic artists IMHO is Andrew Jamieson, who is better known for his emblazonments of English arms but does excellent work with Scots arms. Of course Yvonne Holton, Dingwall Pursuivant of Arms and Herald Painter to the Court of the Lord Lyon, does fabulous work! I'm very partial to Patricia Bertram, but she may be in full retirement now. And then there is Mark Dennis, Ormond Pursuivant of Arms . Wonderful!

[creagdhubh]

Have you visited the official website of the Lord Lyon? They have numerous, helpful documents, to include sample (template) petitions/proofs to help guide those who are interested in petitioning for a grant of arms. A word of advice, be certain to have (the pertinent documents) precisely what the Lyon Court asks, and format everything just as it is shown on the Lord Lyon website. Better yet, you could actually contact the Lyon Clerk and ask for assistance. They have all of the detailed contact information on their website. Doing such, may prevent possible delays and headaches in the future.

Good luck!

[Bluescelt]

I have been on their site and saw the samples. They state the cost of the grant and the matriculation as separate amounts.