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17th April 12, 02:46 PM
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Lord John Drummond - a reconstruction of his tartan
Just received a short length via Dalgliesh for a re-enactor client that I thought I'd share. Here's the original portrait:
![](http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad137/bradan667/Tartan/LordJohnDrummond.jpg)
and a reconstruction in K1 unfinished to retain the coarse feel to the cloth. Personally I'd have used a dull yellow in place of the white as I feel that it overpowers the light green and reverse the greens but that's what my client wanted.
![](http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad137/bradan667/Tartan/LJD1.jpg)
the length included a herringbone selvedge which is probably a first for Dalgliesh.
![](http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad137/bradan667/Tartan/LJD2.jpg)
And this is my preferred interpretation:
Last edited by figheadair; 17th April 12 at 02:57 PM.
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17th April 12, 03:16 PM
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Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair.
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17th April 12, 03:47 PM
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Probably my eye and with the greatest respect, but I don't think your client's version is even close (perhaps that was the deliberate intention and it wasn't absolute replication that was sought?). The thin, light stripes in the original painting are considerably more subtle. I think your interpretation is better and I agree a dull yellow would have helped to tone it down. Thanks for showing us this. Very interesting stuff.
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17th April 12, 06:09 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by figheadair
And this is my preferred interpretation:
![](http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad137/bradan667/Tartan/LJD4.jpg)
Mine, too.
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by English Bloke
Probably my eye and with the greatest respect, but I don't think your client's version is even close (perhaps that was the deliberate intention and it wasn't absolute replication that was sought?). The thin, light stripes in the original painting are considerably more subtle. I think your interpretation is better and I agree a dull yellow would have helped to tone it down. Thanks for showing us this. Very interesting stuff.
What he said.
Kenneth Mansfield
NON OBLIVISCAR
My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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17th April 12, 10:21 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer
Mine, too.
What he said.
Ditto .
Mike Montgomery
Clan Montgomery Society , International
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18th April 12, 08:47 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer
Mine, too.
What he said.
I couldn't agree more! Beautiful portrait by the way, an idea who the artist was?
Cheers,
Last edited by creagdhubh; 18th April 12 at 08:49 AM.
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18th April 12, 10:38 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by creagdhubh
I couldn't agree more! Beautiful portrait by the way, an idea who the artist was?
Cheers,
The portrait is attributed to Domenico Dupra who is known to have painted and/or copied portraits of a number of Jacobite leaders.
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18th April 12, 08:46 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by English Bloke
Probably my eye and with the greatest respect, but I don't think your client's version is even close (perhaps that was the deliberate intention and it wasn't absolute replication that was sought?). The thin, light stripes in the original painting are considerably more subtle. I think your interpretation is better and I agree a dull yellow would have helped to tone it down. Thanks for showing us this. Very interesting stuff.
Oh I have to agree. One can take a horse to water.....!
The original (my interpretation, is to my eyes so much nicer and much more likely what it would have looked like. Thee's no accounting.........
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21st April 12, 12:36 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by figheadair
The original (my interpretation, is to my eyes so much nicer and much more likely what it would have looked like. Thee's no accounting......... ![Confused](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
Another vote for your interpretation. I'm familiar with the portrait of Lord Drummond (though I've never seen the original) from doing research into the Royal Ecossais, but don't quite see the "recreation" as being what he is painted wearing. The width of the white stripes appears too wide - but that could be me.
Virginia Commissioner, Elliot Clan Society, USA
Adjutant, 1745 Appin Stewart Regiment
Scottish-American Military Society
US Marine (1970-1999)
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17th April 12, 06:21 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by figheadair
the length included a herringbone selvedge which is probably a first for dalgliesh.
![](http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad137/bradan667/Tartan/LJD2.jpg)
HuZZaH!
Last edited by xman; 17th April 12 at 06:22 PM.
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