Wearing of kilts and tartan outside of Scotland

[AcuteEnigma]

I have searched for previous threads on this topic but am not sure what terms to search on. "Tartan", "Wearing" and "wearing tartan" all return too many hits. Hence the new thread.

In another thread Matt said "So, all those grumpy old Highland kilt wearers who think the kilt should only be worn by Highlanders in the Highlands should raise a dram in appreciation to all those outwith Scotland who buy from their favorite Scottish suppliers, enabling them to keep the doors open for dour Scots traditionalists! :-)"

Also EnglishBloke said " I've also met Scots who have expressed vociferously a strong objection to me wearing it [the kilt] because I'm "not Scottish"."



Why do those who think so, think that way? I'm trying to break it down into parts so I do not make any assumptions.

Do they object to tartan being worn by non-Highlanders?
Do they object to any kilts being worn by non-Highlanders, even single-color ones?
Do they object to tartan kilts being worn by non-Highlanders?
Do they object to specific Clan tartan kilts being worn by non-Highlanders?

What is the objection and why?

Thank you.

[guardsman]

Now now , bit contentious

[Spartan Tartan]

This thread is opening pandora's kilt... careful what you ask for, you just might get it (and a closed thread).

[CDNSushi]

Dear AcuteEnigma,

I commend you for trying to find an answer using the search function before posting your question. I realize it's not always easy to know the best keywords to use. Personally, having been party to a number of threads where this has been discussed very thoroughly, I used the keywords "outwith Scotland" and returned some of the following results. This is just a SMALL cross-section of the threads out there covering this particular topic.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...t-scots-71367/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...dentity-68555/
This is a sticky, by the way. Searching would not be required to find this one: --> http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f99/kilt-kops-68828/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...elction-73138/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...ericans-76991/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...ditions-59327/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-attire-72692/

Also, you may wish to read the two most recent threads currently in the Cooling Off Corner section.

Hope that helps answer your question.

Dear Rabble,

This moderator is feeling just a WEEEEEEEE bit frazzled at the moment, having had to deal with numerous flags in the past few days, and issues which are not yet resolved. With that in mind, please consider this a warning shot fired across the bow of this thread.... Consider your response carefully before you hit the "Post" button....

1. Is my response NECESSARY?
2. Is my response on-topic?
3. Is my response helpful?
4. Is my response respectful to other opinions
5. Is my response KIND and thoughtful of others?

If the answer to all of the above is "YES" then it's likely that you're on the right track. But if you're being honest with yourself and the answer is "maybe" or "no" to any of these, I strongly recommend pouring yourself a dram, watching some cat vids on Youtube for a few minutes, re-writing your response, and repeat from step 1 as necessary, until your self-evaluation comes back all "yes" OR you fall asleep peacefully with a belly full of single malt, at which point it may be a good idea to repeat the process in the morning.

Thank you kindly for your co-operation,

JD

[BCAC]

Dear AcuteEnigma,

I commend you for trying to find an answer using the search function before posting your question. I realize it's not always easy to know the best keywords to use. Personally, having been party to a number of threads where this has been discussed very thoroughly, I used the keywords "outwith Scotland" and returned some of the following results. This is just a SMALL cross-section of the threads out there covering this particular topic.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...t-scots-71367/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...dentity-68555/
This is a sticky, by the way. Searching would not be required to find this one: --> http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f99/kilt-kops-68828/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...elction-73138/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...ericans-76991/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...ditions-59327/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-attire-72692/

Also, you may wish to read the two most recent threads currently in the Cooling Off Corner section.

Hope that helps answer your question.

Dear Rabble,

This moderator is feeling just a WEEEEEEEE bit frazzled at the moment, having had to deal with numerous flags in the past few days, and issues which are not yet resolved. With that in mind, please consider this a warning shot fired across the bow of this thread.... Consider your response carefully before you hit the "Post" button....

1. Is my response NECESSARY?
2. Is my response on-topic?
3. Is my response helpful?
4. Is my response respectful to other opinions
5. Is my response KIND and thoughtful of others?

If the answer to all of the above is "YES" then it's likely that you're on the right track. But if you're being honest with yourself and the answer is "maybe" or "no" to any of these, I strongly recommend pouring yourself a dram, watching some cat vids on Youtube for a few minutes, re-writing your response, and repeat from step 1 as necessary, until your self-evaluation comes back all "yes" OR you fall asleep peacefully with a belly full of single malt, at which point it may be a good idea to repeat the process in the morning.

Thank you kindly for your co-operation,

JD

Jim,

Maybe you should include in your reply to the rabble:-

6. Should I really get upset because someone replied to my post and didn't agree with me?

[Steve Ashton]

Or perhaps a step 7.

[English Bloke]

6. Should I really get upset because someone replied to my post and didn't agree with me?

David, I agree entirely but a lot of that depends on how the response that disagrees is worded. Is it just countering a point or does it venture into the realm of being personal? No amount of pre-post contemplation will prevent the submit button being hit if the poster thinks they've been slighted.

In reply to Cornet. You raise very valid points but the reason it's contentious (at the moment) is the fires of the last spat have only just been put out. Wounds may be still raw and so it invites another round of heated dischord. It's not the subject that's contentious, it's the timing.

[MacCathmhaoil]

Got me a comfy chair, big bowl of popcorn and a cooler of beer! This should be good.......

[California Highlander]

I think this horse is way dead. Let's bury it and move on.

[TheOfficialBren]

I think this horse is way dead. Let's bury it and move on.

Agreed.