WAGs and Kilt wearing

[Aussie_Don]

I'm just guessing here, but I'd say that anyone who wears a kilt a lot
has a Wife or Girlfriend who likes seeing them in a kilt.

So, how does one win over a SO who is dubious at best and borders
on "slightly hostile"?

Any suggestions?

-Don

WAG == wives and girlfriends - a term used here (in Australia), wasn't
current in the USA circa 1980 when I left there so I'm explaining

[KiltFitz]

Appreciate this might not be available to you in Australia, but if you can, maybe take her to a ceilidh or other event where lots of men would be wearing kilts and impressing the ladies? Or maybe put Mel Gibson braveheart posters up everywhere while walking around the houshe mishpronounshing your eshesh like shir Shean? Sex appeal's the key.

[Aussie_Don]

Appreciate this might not be available to you in Australia, but if you can, maybe take her to a ceilidh or other event where lots of men would be wearing kilts and impressing the ladies? Or maybe put Mel Gibson braveheart posters up everywhere while walking around the houshe mishpronounshing your eshesh like shir Shean? Sex appeal's the key.

Actually, we were at the National Folk Festival last
year and did a couple of dances together at the
"Chaotic Ceilidh" run by a mob from Sydney calling
themselves "Scotch on the Rocks"[1]

And more recently, we were at the Celtic Festival in
Port Arlington, Vic, where there were quite a few kilts
in evidence, including mine.

So I am trying...

I think that it's more of a blokes in"skirts" thing
for her, but it's hard to get her to talk about it. Also,
she's only met one family of my Gregory relatives and
there were "issues" with that experience, so I suppose
that she might not understand the connection that I feel.

-Don

[1] the Rocks is part of the district in Sydney where the
first part of the city was settled -- now more or less an
historical precinct.

[KiltFitz]

Ah, then if it's a positive kilt experience you are looking for I suggest a Scotland v Australia Rugby match. It'll cost you a pair of return flights but I'll be happy to introduce her to the Caledonian Tourists:

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-2013-a-78441/

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...ourists-78210/

After your SO meets us, you'll never be allowed to wear trousers again!

See you in November?

[Aussie_Don]

Ah, then if it's a positive kilt experience you are looking for I suggest a Scotland v Australia Rugby match. It'll cost you a pair of return flights but I'll be happy to introduce her to the Caledonian Tourists:

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-2013-a-78441/

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...ourists-78210/

After your SO meets us, you'll never be allowed to wear trousers again!

See you in November?

As a former tight head prop for the Melbourne Harlequins, I'd
love it. But she's only minorly interested in sport, and Aussie rules
at that.

-Don

[KiltFitz]

As a former tight head prop for the Melbourne Harlequins, I'd
love it. But she's only minorly interested in sport, and Aussie rules
at that.

-Don

Do you see any pictures of us actually at a rugby game?

[Grae]

Just do it-like most things in life be yourself and do what works for you. How do you want to wear the kilt? In a relaxed Aussie way? If so just wear the kilt at home and let her see that it is a normal male garmet and you look good, relaxed and comfortable in it , with her and at home., ie yourself.

As I type this it is 20 C sun shining I am in a long sleeve shirt , 5 yard kilt no belt no socks, no sporran at home after arriving from the office and changing out of my business suit. I do that 6 days out of 7, my wife accepts it as if I changed into jeans as I used to and sometimes even says i look good!

I would not recommend showing a woman the photos of ordinary blokes in kilts on this website and expect her to be impressed one iota (consider the magazines woman look at all the time and compare those with the "models " here!).
It may be a retrograde step and confirm her worst fears that you want to become something your are not or she does not want you to become - dare I say she may conclude odd, fuddy duddy or worse.

Wearing the kilt daily is something I deal with with my other, we live in Sydney, it is a relaxed, hip and up to the mark world city(as you know) if I was to dress as cookie cutter cut out of what kilt hire shops advertise or as a old fashioned 1950's 1960's version of fashion it would appear odd and lets face it like someone too out of touch with their times and could be worrying to a spouse/ SO.

For instance do U wear a jacket and tie on Saturday night in 2013 Sydney ? I bet not but most did in 1964 in Sydney and we don't dress like that now as we do not want to be seen as odd or fuddy duddy and do want to keep up with the fashion to some extent. Woman are in tune with fashion and the times and have a view of themselves and their men in this context.

The trick is to remain "with it" while wearing the kilt, combine with a shirt, or T shirt or short sleeved shirt, jumper , cardigan fleece, track suit jacket etc and be relaxed - essentially how you would dress if you wore shorts , trousers or jeans.

I would be surprised if after a month or so at home your other does not soften and see the appeal of the tartan and the kilt on you!

There is not a special look to aim for it in day to day wear -it is not a uniform, you do not have to wear a belt , ghillie brogues or a vest etc. The best look is one where you are comfortable and confident.

One thing I notice on this forum is that we in Australia are very much more relaxed as a nation in our dress and attitudes to "society's" expectations than many in the old countries and this is reflected in comments about dress e.g. some in the USA have really firm views about button down shirt collars , that is a non issue in Australia, some say woolen hose must be worn at all times ( clearly I disagree with that one).

Having said that there are some gents on this website who are very well turned out and you could learn from their example and take what you like from their "look" while wearing the kilt, to establish and develop your own.

[Grae]

Just do it-like most things in life be yourself and do what works for you. How do you want to wear the kilt? In a relaxed Aussie way? If so just wear the kilt at home and let her see that it is a normal male garmet and you look good, relaxed and comfortable in it , with her and at home., ie yourself.

As I type this it is 20 C sun shining I am in a long sleeve shirt , 5 yard kilt no belt no socks, no sporran at home after arriving from the office and changing out of my business suit. I do that 6 days out of 7, my wife accepts it as if I changed into jeans as I used to and sometimes even says i look good!

I would not recommend showing a woman the photos of ordinary blokes in kilts on this website and expect her to be impressed one iota (consider the magazines woman look at all the time and compare those with the "models " here!).
It may be a retrograde step and confirm her worst fears that you want to become something your are not or she does not want you to become - dare I say she may conclude odd, fuddy duddy or worse.

Wearing the kilt daily is something I deal with with my other, we live in Sydney, it is a relaxed, hip and up to the mark world city(as you know) if I was to dress as cookie cutter cut out of what kilt hire shops advertise or as a old fashioned 1950's 1960's version of fashion it would appear odd and lets face it like someone too out of touch with their times and could be worrying to a spouse/ SO.

For instance do U wear a jacket and tie on Saturday night in 2013 Sydney ? I bet not but most did in 1964 in Sydney and we don't dress like that now as we do not want to be seen as odd or fuddy duddy and do want to keep up with the fashion to some extent. Woman are in tune with fashion and the times and have a view of themselves and their men in this context.

The trick is to remain "with it" while wearing the kilt, combine with a shirt, or T shirt or short sleeved shirt, jumper , cardigan fleece, track suit jacket etc and be relaxed - essentially how you would dress if you wore shorts , trousers or jeans.

I would be surprised if after a month or so at home your other does not soften and see the appeal of the tartan and the kilt on you!

There is not a special look to aim for it in day to day wear -it is not a uniform, you do not have to wear a belt , ghillie brogues or a vest etc. The best look is one where you are comfortable and confident.

One thing I notice on this forum is that we in Australia are very much more relaxed as a nation in our dress and attitudes to "society's" expectations than many in the old countries and this is reflected in comments about dress e.g. some in the USA have really firm views about button down shirt collars , that is a non issue in Australia, some say woolen hose must be worn at all times ( clearly I disagree with that one).

Having said that there are some gents on this website who are very well turned out and you could learn from their example and take what you like from their "look" while wearing the kilt, to establish and develop your own.

[Panache]

Actually, we were at the National Folk Festival last
year and did a couple of dances together at the
"Chaotic Ceilidh" run by a mob from Sydney calling
themselves "Scotch on the Rocks"[1]

Don,

If your wife likes to dance and you like (or at least willing to) dance then you should look to see if you have an Royal Scottish Country Dance Society (RSCDS) classes near you. Scottish Country Dancing is a wonderful activity (and unlike highland dancing very, very little of it is done to the pipes). The music is wonderful, Scottish Country Dancers are very fine people to socialize with, dancing is very good for your health, and...


...it gives you an opportunity to wear your kilt with her once a week, have her see other fellows in kilts, all the while having great fun.


By positive association the kilt ceases to be a skirt for blokes and instead becomes a symbol of great times with great people.

Here is the society's website, take a look at the class locator and see if one might be an option

http://www.rscds.org

Cheers

Jamie

[Jock Scot]

I have been lucky I suppose living where I do, this sort of thing is not a problem--------although, I do recall a very pretty young lady in the distant past who was none too impressed with the kilt, dammit. I digress, hurrumph!---------- Anyway, I read of of this problem of yours quite often here and it seems to me there is no quick fix. However, "knowing the enemy" so to speak, is a good start and work your strategy around that. Let her have a good look at the pictures on this website, there is a whole host of kilted attire options for her to see and think about, pipe bands are good for lightening the the atmosphere so let her see lots of kilts, so tactics of a "slowly, slowly, catchy monkey" kind would be my thoughts------------and hope!

Good luck!