Welsh Cilt vs. What I Know As A Kilt

[WalesLax]

I have been perusing the boards, but was hoping a firm answer to a question that has begged me for a while. I have had kilts for years. A few years back, I wandered into the Welsh Tartan Center in Cardiff, and found a Welsh Cilt in the tartan of my surname, Roberts, though the Roberts side is French and not Welsh. Regardless, it was an alternative to the "generic" kilts I had; Stewart and Price of Wales being my two "go-to's."

To this day, I really can't tell the difference between a Welsh Cilt and what we generally refer to as a kilt. Is there something I am missing? Is it just the mill it comes from?

Noticing how many Welsh there are on the board, I am looking for some good answers and great conversation!

Rob

[Dundonian.on.Islay]

I have been perusing the boards, but was hoping a firm answer to a question that has begged me for a while. I have had kilts for years. A few years back, I wandered into the Welsh Tartan Center in Cardiff, and found a Welsh Cilt in the tartan of my surname, Roberts, though the Roberts side is French and not Welsh. Regardless, it was an alternative to the "generic" kilts I had; Stewart and Price of Wales being my two "go-to's."

To this day, I really can't tell the difference between a Welsh Cilt and what we generally refer to as a kilt. Is there something I am missing? Is it just the mill it comes from?

Noticing how many Welsh there are on the board, I am looking for some good answers and great conversation!

Rob

As far as I'm aware there's no difference really, I don't think the letter 'K' appears in the Welsh language, so it's substituted with a 'C', though there is a growing range of Welsh tartans, but, don't quote me on that, it's just my understanding

[Tobus]

I believe it's the Welsh tartan that makes it a Welsh kilt (cilt). Otherwise it's the same.

Welsh tartans typically are not like Scottish tartans, in that they don't have the same pattern in both the warp and weft.

[chasem]

I believe it's the Welsh tartan that makes it a Welsh kilt (cilt). Otherwise it's the same.

Welsh tartans typically are not like Scottish tartans, in that they don't have the same pattern in both the warp and weft.

I seem to remember that Welsh tartan material often (always?) comes without the traditional kilt selvedge and will be hemmed. Am I remembering correctly?

[McClef]

Indeed and usually has the Red Dragon or St David's Cross, or both, woven on the front apron on the right hand side.

They tend to be no heavier than 13 oz either.

Cilt is a matter of Welsh orthography, the C being hard and thus pronounced as a K.

The WTC is now only located in Swansea.

[BCAC]

There were some posts around recently saying that the replacement of the K in kilt by a C because, ostensibly, there is no K in Welsh has no real reason to exist because the is no K in gaelic either? Am I remembering these posts correctly?

There really isn't much difference between a Welsh "Cilt" and a Scottish "Kilt". The tartan obviously and the small differences that everyone has pointed out on this thread. I believe that the biggest difference is, as Tobus pointed out, the difference between Warp and Weft.

[WalesLax]

Now that you mention it, that is one difference I remember seeing/hearing, though when I got mine, I was given the choice of what I wanted.