Casual Kilt at hip

**DrWilson** · 26th February 17, 03:32 PM

Hello I haven't been on since my trip to Ireland, where I ended up not wearing my kilt. It probably would have blown off! (Joke)

Anyhow been wearing my kilts wear they out to be bout true waist.

I have a casual sport kilt that won't fit round my belly and it's shorter so when I wear it at hip level it still meets requirements length wise.

Just feels . . . odd wearing it so low.

I heard you can wear the casual sport kilts there but never done so until today.

This is normal right?

**Jock Scot** · 26th February 17, 03:59 PM

I have no idea!

**Manu** · 26th February 17, 04:49 PM

I'd say it's normal depending on the the construction of the kilt. A traditionally tailored kilt should never be worn at the hip as it is built to be worn at the true waist and you would end up with a wonky looking garment. I don't own a sportkilt, so I don't know how they are built, length of fell, waist to hip ratio, etc, to say normal or abnormal.

**Dollander** · 26th February 17, 05:52 PM

Different makers have different definitions of what a "casual" kilt is, but they do tend toward a lower-waisted fit. Though as the name implies, I consider my Sport Kilt to be more the kilt equivalent of sweatpants or gym shorts rather than casual wear like jeans or khakis. And based on the length of the "fell" (mine does have the stitched pleats, though the fit is achieved via the elastic waist rather than tapering the pleats) as well as the overall length, wearing it closer to one's trouser waist does seem to be the intention of the design.

**joek** · 26th February 17, 06:03 PM

With the fell the Sport Kilts are usually worn higher - like the traditional kilts. Having talked to other vendors about their "casual" kilts I think it best you either call them or check their respective website for measurements as it does vary.

**Dollander** · 26th February 17, 06:32 PM

The stitched portion on mine is 3.5", which along with the 1.5" waistband makes for a 5" fell. So unless you have an unusually short pelvis, that'd be indicative of a garment intended to be worn at the trouser waist. Plus, the standard length of the larger sizes is 22.5", while off-the-rack traditional kilts tend to be 24"...again, implying that a man of average height would want to wear it lower lest it look more like a schoolgirl's skirt than a man's kilt.

**The Wizard of BC** · 26th February 17, 06:11 PM

We may be confusing some terms.

A Casual or Casual style kilt is one that the from the outside will look like a Traditional style kilt but which does not have the internal construction elements that are the hallmarks of the Traditional style kilts.

A Sport or Pub style kilt will be the lowest common denominator yet still have pleats and resemble a kilt. Perfect for wear to the pub where you may spill a beer on it or a Highland Games athlete who is required to wear a kilt but who may destroy it and need a cheap replacement.

So the style of the kilt is determined by the construction not how it is worn.

A 21st Century kilt is a full traditional style designed to be worn lower.

**Taskr** · 26th February 17, 06:20 PM

If it fits ....

I suppose it matters which fabricator, and if they designed it to be at "jeans waist"

**Dollander** · 28th February 17, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC

We may be confusing some terms.

A Casual or Casual style kilt is one that the from the outside will look like a Traditional style kilt but which does not have the internal construction elements that are the hallmarks of the Traditional style kilts.

A Sport or Pub style kilt will be the lowest common denominator yet still have pleats and resemble a kilt. Perfect for wear to the pub where you may spill a beer on it or a Highland Games athlete who is required to wear a kilt but who may destroy it and need a cheap replacement.

So the style of the kilt is determined by the construction not how it is worn.

A 21st Century kilt is a full traditional style designed to be worn lower.

Both Scotweb and Celtic Croft use the term "casual" to refer to their 5-yard kilts, available in both PV and wool, while USA Kilts' casual is exclusively PV and a much simpler design (e.g. velcro instead of straps and no fringe). Both Scotweb and USA Kilts indicate that their respective casual kilts are designed to be worn lower than a traditional kilt, and Celtic Croft mentions that it's an option for theirs, though there's nothing mentioned about adjusting the fell length if that's the customer's intention. So really there's no hard-and-fast definition of what a casual kilt is, other than not being a traditional 8-yard kilt...though like I said, there is at least a tendency for them to be designed to be worn lower.