Kilt belt with D rings for a Sporran?

[Mr stonk]

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Just noticed this kilt belt for sale and its description states D rings attached for a sporran.

I'm guessing you would need 2 small sporran chains with clips on both ends to attach to the sporran and belt?
I've never seen this type of belt and dont think I've ever seen small sporran chains for sale.
I suppose you could just put a traditional chain on and feed through the D rings but dont think that would look correct or just ignore the D rings and wear sporran as normal.

I like the idea of this belt but would I need to make my own small chains or are they available to buy?

[KennethSime]

I'm no expert, but I've never seen anything like this before. Perhaps this is what inspired Sporran Hangers?

I'd think you could modify a typical sporran chain pretty easily by cutting off the extra links and adding some small clips from a crafts or hobby store.

[Steve Ashton]

Sporran suspenders are small chains with leather loops that fit over the belt.



But due to the wide spacing of these "D" rings, I suspect that they are designed for the regular sporran chain to slide through. In this case all they do is hold the sporran chain a bit higher so the sporran chain does not go under the belly.

Honestly this is the first time I have seen this. They look like a custom, 1-off, or wearer added thing.

[Allan Thomson]

I'm cynicalas to whether this is a Kilt belt with D rings for sporran- looks more like it could be part of a Sam Brown to me?

Sporran suspenders are small chains with leather loops that fit over the belt.



But due to the wide spacing of these "D" rings, I suspect that they are designed for the regular sporran chain to slide through. In this case all they do is hold the sporran chain a bit higher so the sporran chain does not go under the belly.

Honestly this is the first time I have seen this. They look like a custom, 1-off, or wearer added thing.

[Steve Ashton]

Having worn many Sam Brown Belts I can say this is not like any I ever wore.

A Sam Brown is a load bearing device for a sword, pistol or heavy map case. There are four attachment places all on the left. Two up and two down.

[bodhran4me]

My first thought was also Sam Browne but couldn't figure the spacing. It may have been the inspiration for the one-off that Steve suggested or just a new idea from a leather worker.

Would the OP care to share a link to the belt?

My issue with hangers or this type of belt is when you want to move your sporran off to the side.

[Pleater]

Are there conventions about which side the buckle should be worn?
That might hint at the intended orientation, up or down, of the D rings.

Anne the Pleater

[Fraoch]

Hi Anne,

Steve's photo is correct, the Sam Browne is assembled for wear with the rounded rings uppermost for the shoulder strap and the squared rings below for the scabbard frog. We weren't allowed to be left handed back in the day.


Regards

Fraoch

[Pleater]

Which makes the original photo even more puzzling as it has the rings on one edge only - but the spacing is wrong, for a Sam Browne belt, as there is a ring to the left and the right. not both on one side.

Anne the Pleater

[Mr stonk]

The more I look at the belt I'm starting to think it's a firemans belt circa 1970's
The belts I remember did not have the D rings and the firemans axe attached via a leather loop in the axe pouch but there were various types available.
Slightly before my time and I've been a firefighter for 29yrs, we no longer attach equipment to belts but this could definitely be used for such a thing.
Belts back then were always made of leather and were slightly longer than standard so they could fit around the fire tunic with usually a hand axe attached in some fashion.
Back then everyone had their own personal issued hand axe in a leather pouch.