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Do kilts hold their value and what to buy next?
My recent frustrations with Pakistani import has left me wanting a genuine Scottish kilt, i know a few makers and it seems the price varies wildly, ideally I’d like something I can enjoy for the rest of my life, that my kids can and their kids etc, but I’d also want something that expensive to hold its value, my family are all about investing and being frugal so even though I have the money, they strongly advise me not to spend £700 on a kinloch Anderson kilt, I mean I’d love to, I’d have a luxury car too, but I have parents to keep happy and I’m not ready at the moment to move out, and honestly I was risking it buying a kilt in the first place, if I spent £700 on a kilt behind their back would it keep its value?
They tell me not to spend more than £100 on a kilt, how much can I get for that money? I want to avoid used for obvious reasons but clearance is fine, I also want to avoid non-trad and American makes due to post brexit import costs.
I’d also like Irish county tartans if possible, as my grandmom was born in county Wexford.
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You are not going to get a proper kilt for a hundred quid, but you don't need to spend £700 either. Look at used kilts, especially former rentals/hires. You may not get the exact tartan or size you want, but you'll get a decently made kilt and perhaps a local tailor can make any adjustments if needed.
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First buy your cloth, then go to a kilt maker. Cathy Hope at Braw Kilts is superb.
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Originally Posted by SF Jeff
You are not going to get a proper kilt for a hundred quid, but you don't need to spend £700 either. Look at used kilts, especially former rentals/hires. You may not get the exact tartan or size you want, but you'll get a decently made kilt and perhaps a local tailor can make any adjustments if needed.
I don’t really like the concept of used kilts, what if someone’s worn nothing under it?
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Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
I don’t really like the concept of used kilts, what if someone’s worn nothing under it?
As long as you're covered you should be OK. If you are buying an ex-hire kilt it might be dry cleaned before being put up for sale.
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Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
I’d want something that expensive to hold its value, my family are all about investing...if I spent £700 on a kilt behind their back would it keep its value?
Kilts rarely do hold their value, and there's a really good reason for that.
When you have a kilt made it's sized specifically for you, not only your waist and length, but also the hips, so that the waist/hips differential is built into how the kilt is made.
And when you have a kilt made you've selected one fabric out of the thousands of available tartans and tweeds.
So your kilt has a good chance of being the only one on Earth in that exact fabric and with those exact measurements.
This means that when a used kilt is put up for sale the potential market for it is extremely limited. It will generally sell for far less than it cost, and the buyer is most likely to be somebody first getting into kiltwearing who is not too picky about the tartan and size and is looking for a bargain.
I keep tabs on used kilts every day on Ebay and a quality kilt in my size, in a tartan I want, has never appeared, not in 20 years looking.
You buy a kilt to wear. It's not an investment.
I play bagpipes and they're the opposite. Quality bagpipes from high-reputation makers never lose value, and often gain value. There are people who "flip" bagpipes like houses, and can make thousands of dollars at auction on one sale if they had bought great pipes from a famous maker at a bargain price.
Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
They tell me not to spend more than £100 on a kilt, how much can I get for that money?
I've known people who have found quality kilts at Charity Shops that just happened to fit them.
Also Kilt Hire Shops often have big sales of ex-hire kilts around New Year. They're clearing out the Hire kilts which are in tartans no longer in demand, and getting in new kilts in new tartans expected to be in demand in the coming Spring Wedding rush.
Being outwith Scotland I'm not there in January and February to search the Hire Shops. I've known people who have got high-quality kilts for £100-200.
I did scour the online ex-hire sales for a couple years and never found a kilt in my size in a tartan I wanted.
Aside from Charity Shop, ex-hire, and Ebay, which require time, legwork, and luck, £100 is only going to get you a tat Pakistani kilt.
Just the cloth for a genuine kilt is going to be, what? £300 and then the kiltmaker has to be paid.
I have two Cathy Hope (Braw Kilts) kilts and I think they were a very good value.
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Originally Posted by OC Richard
Kilts rarely do hold their value, and there's a really good reason for that.
When you have a kilt made it's sized specifically for you, not only your waist and length, but also the hips, so that the waist/hips differential is built into how the kilt is made.
And when you have a kilt made you've selected one fabric out of the thousands of available tartans and tweeds.
So your kilt has a good chance of being the only one on Earth in that exact fabric and with those exact measurements.
This means that when a used kilt is put up for sale the potential market for it is extremely limited. It will generally sell for far less than it cost, and the buyer is most likely to be somebody first getting into kiltwearing who is not too picky about the tartan and size and is looking for a bargain.
I keep tabs on used kilts every day on Ebay and a quality kilt in my size, in a tartan I want, has never appeared, not in 20 years looking.
You buy a kilt to wear. It's not an investment.
I play bagpipes and they're the opposite. Quality bagpipes from high-reputation makers never lose value, and often gain value. There are people who "flip" bagpipes like houses, and can make thousands of dollars at auction on one sale if they had bought great pipes from a famous maker at a bargain price.
I've known people who have found quality kilts at Charity Shops that just happened to fit them.
Also Kilt Hire Shops often have big sales of ex-hire kilts around New Year. They're clearing out the Hire kilts which are in tartans no longer in demand, and getting in new kilts in new tartans expected to be in demand in the coming Spring Wedding rush.
Being outwith Scotland I'm not there in January and February to search the Hire Shops. I've known people who have got high-quality kilts for £100-200.
I did scour the online ex-hire sales for a couple years and never found a kilt in my size in a tartan I wanted.
Aside from Charity Shop, ex-hire, and Ebay, which require time, legwork, and luck, £100 is only going to get you a tat Pakistani kilt.
Just the cloth for a genuine kilt is going to be, what? £300 and then the kiltmaker has to be paid.
I have two Cathy Hope (Braw Kilts) kilts and I think they were a very good value.
That’s another problem with used and ex-hire, I’m a strange size and I’d like the choice of tartan, I have seen clothes in obscure sizes being sold for a lot of money before, you saying those people are con artists?
I just want a kilt, is this one of those hobbies I should shelve until I move out? Should I just keep wearing cheap tat til then?
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Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
That’s another problem with used and ex-hire, I’m a strange size and I’d like the choice of tartan.
I know what you mean, I'm tall and 16 stone and things in my size rarely appear on the used/ex-hire market.
If you want something to fit and want to choose a specific tartan it's almost certainly going to mean a bespoke kilt.
Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
I have seen clothes in obscure sizes being sold for a lot of money before, you saying those people are con artists?
Sorry I'm not sure of your meaning there.
Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
I just want a kilt, is this one of those hobbies I should shelve until I move out? Should I just keep wearing cheap tat til then?
That's a decision only you can make.
My situation was different: I had taken up the pipes and though a teenager I knew in my bones that it was going to be a lifelong obsession.
Thus I knew I was going to be a lifelong kiltwearer as well, and realising that I could only get kilts I wanted to wear going the traditional bespoke route that's what I've done. (2025 will mark 50 years playing pipes and wearing kilts.)
Actually my first two kilts were made by my grandmother. That's another approach, do it in-house. There's a super book The Art of Kiltmaking and I took a kiltmaking workshop from one of the authors. So I do have a kilt I made myself, but the fabric alone was more than double your 100-pound budget.
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Originally Posted by OC Richard
I know what you mean, I'm tall and 16 stone and things in my size rarely appear on the used/ex-hire market.
If you want something to fit and want to choose a specific tartan it's almost certainly going to mean a bespoke kilt.
Sorry I'm not sure of your meaning there.
That's a decision only you can make.
My situation was different: I had taken up the pipes and though a teenager I knew in my bones that it was going to be a lifelong obsession.
Thus I knew I was going to be a lifelong kiltwearer as well, and realising that I could only get kilts I wanted to wear going the traditional bespoke route that's what I've done. (2025 will mark 50 years playing pipes and wearing kilts.)
Actually my first two kilts were made by my grandmother. That's another approach, do it in-house. There's a super book The Art of Kiltmaking and I took a kiltmaking workshop from one of the authors. So I do have a kilt I made myself, but the fabric alone was more than double your 100-pound budget.
I’ve heard of that book before but I doubt it’s something I’d do anytime soon, is it possible to buy cheap tartan and give it to a kilt maker though?
Oh and £100 isn’t actually my budget, it’s how much my parents are happy for me to spend, they think kilts are funny man skirts so don’t see any value in them, hmm maybe I could go over and lie to them?
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25th May 24, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
…hmm maybe I could go over and lie to them?
Bad policy and best avoided.
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