Anyone's spouse/significant other vehemently opposed to you kilting?

[Nighthawk]

Isn't the internet cool? You can bust into a thread and insult everyone's wives, and they can't do anuthing about it!!!

It's not about "ownership". It's about caring enough about another person to have an opinion about what they're wearing. I don't remember anyone saying that they weren't "allowed" to wear one. Some of us have wives that don't like us wearing kilts. We're just in here talking amongst ourselves about that. We can appreciate that you're too cool to care what women think. The rest of us will just carry on with our little thread.

Hav Fun,
Java

The very first post says:

Has / does anyone have the experience of your spouse / significant other being vehemently opposed to your owning / wearing the kilt?

Just asking....

Correct me if I'm wrong here... but doesn't "vehemently opposed" mean the same as "not allowed?" And then there are the numerous posts about wives who refuse to be seen in public with a spouse in a kilt. That's a wife saying "You're not allowed to do that, and I will punish you for it." I don't tell my wife how to dress, and I expect the same respect in return. Not allowing a grown man to dress himself, especially if the manner of dress is perfectly appropriate, it shows a blatant lack of respect and need for control of the husband. Hence the comment about ownership. Now if I were going about my day to day life wearing a great kilt, Renaissance period shirt, and buckle brogues... that would be a little silly. And I could see objections. But a normal modern kilt? If you don't like me wearing it, then that's your issue, and you can get the he** over it. However, a lot of people don't like that attitude, and seem to think that instead letting me live my life, they have the right to force their views on me. That's the ownership issue.

So you see, not everyone's wives were insulted. The only ones who might have been are the ones who think they should control their husbands mode of dress. And if they take is an insult, well... the truth stings some times.

[Java]

....... Now if I were going about my day to day life wearing a great kilt, Renaissance period shirt, and buckle brogues... that would be a little silly.

OK, we agree 100% on that point. That's a great example of what I'm trying to say. These women are saying the kilt crosses the line and is outside the realm of "normal" acceptible fashion. You and I have just chosen to say "no, the kilt is inside the line, but the great kilt (etc) is outside the line." To these women there is no difference. Again, obviously I'm on your side. Is there nothing your wife could dress in that would make you say "Really, you're going out in that?" I think you've actually figured it out here. It's the old "is it a costume or is it clothing" debate. You and I see it as clothing. My wife sees it as a costume. She'll get over it eventually.

I guess what actually set me off though, is if the traditional guys are talking about the proper number of buttons to wear on a certain kind of vest, I don't bust in and say"You're all a bunch of idiots, just wear a hoodie." I expect them to not bust into a "what kind of boots/socks" thread and call us a bunch of crossdressers. I generally agree with Jay on most stuff, but it seems to me like that's what he did here.

I'm happy for whoever doesn't have the problem. But someone without the problem coming in here and judging our relationships is like someone with no children who thinks they are an expert at raising them. Or these 110 lbs guys with a hummingbird's metabolism that can eat all day long telling me I have no self control and I should hit a salad bar. They should not be so quick to judge stuff they know nothing about.

Have Fun,
Java

[Nighthawk]

OK, we agree 100% on that point. That's a great example of what I'm trying to say. These women are saying the kilt crosses the line and is outside the realm of "normal" acceptible fashion. You and I have just chosen to say "no, the kilt is inside the line, but the great kilt (etc) is outside the line." To these women there is no difference. Again, obviously I'm on your side. Is there nothing your wife could dress in that would make you say "Really, you're going out in that?" I think you've actually figured it out here. It's the old "is it a costume or is it clothing" debate. You and I see it as clothing. My wife sees it as a costume. She'll get over it eventually.

I guess what actually set me off though, is if the traditional guys are talking about the proper number of buttons to wear on a certain kind of vest, I don't bust in and say"You're all a bunch of idiots, just wear a hoodie." I expect them to not bust into a "what kind of boots/socks" thread and call us a bunch of crossdressers. I generally agree with Jay on most stuff, but it seems to me like that's what he did here.

I'm happy for whoever doesn't have the problem. But someone without the problem coming in here and judging our relationships is like someone with no children who thinks they are an expert at raising them. Or these 110 lbs guys with a hummingbird's metabolism that can eat all day long telling me I have no self control and I should hit a salad bar. They should not be so quick to judge stuff they know nothing about.

Have Fun,
Java

I see your point. Problem is, these guys also have wives. We have all had some sort of struggle with our wives. Therefore, we all have something to contribute to the conversation. I am one of the lucky ones who's wife not only likes the kilt, but insists that I wear it whenever possible. However, she doesn't like the idea of primitive camping, which I love. She compromises with me on that by letting me go by myself, and sometimes even participating. Getting her out of the KOA Kamper Kabins and into the forest was at first a struggle. Just because she has no issue with kilt wearing does not mean we haven't had similar issues over other things.

[Gael Ridire]

My wife is okay with it, but hates the cost. She is better with the PV type kilts though.

HOWEVER, a pipe band I use to play with had a Scot attending the local university, and he brought his pipes. Use to see him downtown playing on the sidewalk wearing his kilt. Good piper. Sadly though he feel in love with a coed who obviously had not a drop of Celtic blood in her or DNA, cause when they got engaged she put an end to any notion he had of a kilted wedding, and after the nuptials there would be no more playin' the pipes! Never saw him again, and yes the bloody fool married her anyway.

[Java]

Now see, that's just wrong. She didn't care enough about him to let him play, and evidently he didn't care enough about playing to force the issue. If he had stuck to his guns, she might have walked, and he might have been better off. Only he knows. In our case, we were married for over 20 years before I bought my first kilt. I won't back down, so like I've said, she'll get over it. It's just nice to get to commiserate with others in the same boat.

.....We have all had some sort of struggle with our wives. Therefore, we all have something to contribute to the conversation.....

Good point. And that's the key, you're contributing. You pretty much always do. Maybe Jay's comment just hit me at a bad time or something, but it didn't seem to be a "contribution" when I read it. :mrgreen:

Have Fun,
Java

[Nighthawk]

Good point. And that's the key, you're contributing. You pretty much always do. Maybe Jay's comment just hit me at a bad time or something, but it didn't seem to be a "contribution" when I read it. :mrgreen:

Have Fun,
Java

Thank you for saying that! I sometimes worry that I come across as a loudmouth jerk... and yet, I keep talking...