Ghillie boots

**User** · 18th July 25, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Father Bill

Why? Because like so many who sell on Evil-Bay, they haven't the foggiest idea of what they're talking about.

To be fair, I can't count the number of derbys being advertised as oxfords. People don't know shoes in general.

**Father Bill** · 18th July 25, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by User

To be fair, I can't count the number of derby's being advertised as oxfords. People don't know shoes in general.

If you do a search for "pictures oxford style shoes" you'll get pretty well everything but.

**Allan Thomson** · 4th September 25, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by spr0k3t

Now I'm not a propper Scotsman grounded by the borders of Scotland... but this pic I always found a smidge off. The leather kilt, kilts with pockets, and Mr All Plaid-Man. A few look okay... but it's the odd ones that stick out like a sore thumb to me.

I think of all of them the gentleman in all Tweed looks the best turned out and a style I could see myself wearing, the guy behind is ok but can't see enough to be 100% certain. The rest are awful.

**Allan Thomson** · 4th September 25, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by MacKenzie

Noticed that about the sporran, but can't really tell if it's an offset flap or not (the one on the far left certainly is). I do think it's worn too high.

Yes, all the kilts are too low.

What's your preferred tie knot?

To be fair to the two gentlemen on the right, it's hard to tell if the too low kilts is intention, ignorance or possibly poor sizing. The one on the far right (of the picture I don't know his political persuasion!) Looks as if the Jacket is just a bit too long in the sleeves so could have been asked to model the outfit which didn't quite fit right and so the kilt slipped at the waist?

**Pleater** · 4th September 25, 09:55 AM

What I find most improper is the flare of the kilts - a kilt should not be A-line.

I do wear kilts of different lengths, but they are all properly styled. The pleats fall vertically from the lower edge of the fell - it alters the outline and the whole effect of the costume on the body (costume as in set of clothes not 'cos play')

Anne the Pleater

**stickman** · 5th September 25, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by MacKenzie

The only thing that I see ghillie-ish about them is the sawtooth(?) cut of the leather where the eyelets are. Other than that it's just a wingtip boot.

Interestingly, these came up when I was searching for a cap toe boot. Something a little more formal than my hiking boots, but still ok for a bit of "off road" or when an unexpected shower pops up. Going to give these a try.

Look up Corcoran jump boots. I used them when I was in the 101st. Gave them hard use and they stood up well.

**User** · 7th September 25, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

Look up Corcoran jump boots. I used them when I was in the 101st. Gave them hard use and they stood up well.

Those have been tempting me for some time. But realistically I have no need for such a tall boot.
I can imagine them collecting dust as I repeatedly pass over them in the morning in favor of shorter boots with speed hooks for the sake of convenience. 5-6 inches seems to be the sweet spot for me.
But the Munson Last used on them is a treat for the toes, and I greatly appreciate that they're offered in EE width.

**OC Richard** · 8th September 25, 07:34 AM

About "Ghillie boots", this Victorian photo appears to show Ghillies that come up higher like that.

**OC Richard** · 8th September 25, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

This Scot absolutely does not think that Ghillie Brogues are "Traditional Highland Dress" and I am not alone here in Scotland, in thinking that.

And you're not alone in thinking Ghillie brogues aren't traditional (and I'm in California).

They first appear on the feet of the Allen Brothers, both in self-portraits and in photographs.

We know that in their research for their bizarre book The Costume Of The Clans they came across an old letter describing deerskin moccasins. Joining the dots, it's possible that as part of the fantasy "ancient Highland" costumes they had made for themselves they invented Ghillie brogues as we know them.

Nothing of the sort appear in any of our earliest images of men in Highland Dress.

**Jock Scot** · 9th September 25, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

And you're not alone in thinking Ghillie brogues aren't traditional (and I'm in California).

They first appear on the feet of the Allen Brothers, both in self-portraits and in photographs.

We know that in their research for their bizarre book The Costume Of The Clans they came across an old letter describing deerskin moccasins. Joining the dots, it's possible that as part of the fantasy "ancient Highland" costumes they had made for themselves they invented Ghillie brogues as we know them.

Nothing of the sort appear in any of our earliest images of men in Highland Dress.

Although personally, I think that I would put the shoes that you have illustrated into the "historical and theatrical" classes.