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15th August 05, 11:46 AM
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15th(Scottish)/9th(Scottish)
I remember somebody here is connected to a re-enactors association of one of these divisions. If memory serves, the re-enactors are US based.
Question: is there any US link for this? In a rough sense, some Canadian highland troops were part of these, US were independant, roughly attached to France and not to any (Scottish) division.
Fill me in, please.
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15th August 05, 12:32 PM
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15th Scottish Division...
Originally Posted by Archangel
I remember somebody here is connected to a re-enactors association of one of these divisions. If memory serves, the re-enactors are US based.
Question: is there any US link for this? In a rough sense, some Canadian highland troops were part of these, US were independant, roughly attached to France and not to any (Scottish) division.
Fill me in, please.
That would probably be me, Archangel. I have a friend who was a member in North Carolina:
http://www.cameronians.com/15th/
Cheers,
Todd
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15th August 05, 01:05 PM
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Or possibly me, who reenacts 2nd Argyll and Sutherland, part of the 15th Div. (scottish)...
Try our site:
http://home.rochester.rr.com/argylls...and/index.html
Hope that helps.
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15th August 05, 07:28 PM
#4
still not the why or the connection to US. Is there a connection?
correction/note: Cameron link says kilts out in late WW2, actually out during Dunkirk, at beginning. Cameron's last official use, though. We're talking official not Mad Major, etc.
re: sten gun, according to street clearing veteran of WW2, so unreliable it was used like a grenade. tossed into room with clip and impact on floor would set it off, wouldn't stop till empty.
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15th August 05, 08:13 PM
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To my knowledge, the US military has no connection to the 15th Div...Is this what you were looking for? If not, please clarify...
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16th August 05, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sav
To my knowledge, the US military has no connection to the 15th Div...Is this what you were looking for? If not, please clarify...
Actually, yes.
One never knows why people get involved in re-enactments, usually for good reasons. Sometimes there's a real link sometimes it's just kindred spirits.
As I'm following some of the other posts, there have been many links between regiments brought to light.
I have a mercenary reason for asking. I'm in the germ stage of developing a small business and the theme will be the 15th or the 9th. (and it will be honouring, Sav, you can monitor me on that, heck, me mum will put the boot in if I disrespect them.) I'm having trouble finding an honest, clear tie-in to the US which, frankly, is where the money really is. There are indirect and neutral links that can work, some WW2 links, but the theme should not go past 1940.
I'll have some product soon, there's a little bit of legal stuff left and we've spent way too much at the last couple of Celtic/Scottish festivals.
I know, I know, I spent all my money on women, motorcycles, guitars and kilts. The rest, I squandered.
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16th August 05, 01:44 PM
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US connection...
Originally Posted by Archangel
Actually, yes.
One never knows why people get involved in re-enactments, usually for good reasons. Sometimes there's a real link sometimes it's just kindred spirits.
As I'm following some of the other posts, there have been many links between regiments brought to light.
I have a mercenary reason for asking. I'm in the germ stage of developing a small business and the theme will be the 15th or the 9th. (and it will be honouring, Sav, you can monitor me on that, heck, me mum will put the boot in if I disrespect them.) I'm having trouble finding an honest, clear tie-in to the US which, frankly, is where the money really is. There are indirect and neutral links that can work, some WW2 links, but the theme should not go past 1940.
I'll have some product soon, there's a little bit of legal stuff left and we've spent way too much at the last couple of Celtic/Scottish festivals.
I know, I know, I spent all my money on women, motorcycles, guitars and kilts. The rest, I squandered.
The most famous "tie" between Scottish troops and the United States is from the Black Watch -- after the American Revolution, the Black Watch took no battle honours for actions in that -- their regimental history stated that the regiment thought it was wrong to celebrate battle honours in a war between kith and kin (paraphrase mine).
The Camerons have the connection with the 79th New York Regiment in the US Civil War, that adopted the Cameron of Erracht tartan and wore kilts as a militia unit (but not in combat, although there is great debate about what uniforms they did wear) -- the 79th was disbanded in the late 19th century.
Cheers,
Todd
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16th August 05, 01:52 PM
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Archangel,
I wait with baited breath to see what you're going to offer! I think most 15th/9th Div. Reenactors do these regiments for a number of reasons: 1. Family Ties 2. Blatant interest in the regiments 3. Interest in Scotland, her culture, etc....
The number of reasons are as numerous as the reenactors.
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