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27th February 08, 09:19 AM
#21
 Originally Posted by Tartan Hiker
I made a kilt with the pleats reversed with the idea that it would be easier to get into the car. It really doesn't help that much. Don't forget that with reversed pleats you have to reverse the direction of your sweep. Try getting into an American car while simultaneously sweeping your pleats outward with your left hand! The first time I tried it I almost fell down. Still haven't quite mastered it.
I don't agree. Everytime I let the wife drive and I get in on the passenger side, it is much easier.
Also I don't understand the reverse direction of the sweep. When I sweep the pleats, I sweep from my rear end towards my knees. right and/or left hand. The sweep, for me, is from the sewn down fell area towards the un-sewn down pleat area. The area that gets crumpled, again, for me, is the un-sewn down area which is generally below the upper thigh while seated.
Getting in on the passenger side is easier as the sweep, plant and swivel action tends to compress the pleats instead of open them.
Since I have "Captain" chairs in my new truck, I wonder if there is a seat swivel device available to turn the entire seat???? Of course for me I would also have to install the fork-lift option....
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27th February 08, 09:27 AM
#22
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27th February 08, 09:47 AM
#23
A feller who has badly wrinkled pleats, doesn't know how to sit down properly kilted.
And if he doesn't know enough to keep the wrinkles away, he most likely doesn't know how to keep his package concealed either.
Slainte,
steve
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27th February 08, 09:55 AM
#24
Now that we have the pleat thing down to a science, let's discuss how we hold on to the car keys during this process. I hold the key fob in mouth or lay them down on the arm rest before entering.
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27th February 08, 10:07 AM
#25
How about those of us who are traveling on public transportation systems? Has anyone figured out how to keep the pleats flat while squeezing into a row of seats barely 6" from the row in front of it???
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27th February 08, 10:07 AM
#26
 Originally Posted by Cawdorian
Now that we have the pleat thing down to a science, let's discuss how we hold on to the car keys during this process. I hold the key fob in mouth or lay them down on the arm rest before entering.
Never gave the keys much thought....Hmmmmm 
When casual, they are hooked on the belt. When dressy and above, they are in sporran or sometimes coat pocket. Current vehicles have electronic door openers, so I don't need keys until I am ready to put them into the ignition.
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27th February 08, 12:06 PM
#27
As what has been said above, the sweep, then sit and swivel method works well. With cloth or velour seats, you must jam your rear end against the inside rear corner of the cushion, then swivel, otherwise, the pleats WILL wind up hanging off the side of the seat. Leather is much more forgiving in that respect.
Usually put the keys on the dash, then climb in. Did that even before I was kilted...
-J
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27th February 08, 12:17 PM
#28
I am driving a Toyota 4Runner right now. (Well not at this exact moment!) I climb in and raise my hips, reach down and sweep the pleats. It seems to work fairly well, though I don't know how it would work out for a long drive.
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27th February 08, 12:23 PM
#29
 Originally Posted by Galician
How about those of us who are traveling on public transportation systems? Has anyone figured out how to keep the pleats flat while squeezing into a row of seats barely 6" from the row in front of it??? 
PLUS juggling any bags you might be holding.... I've perfected the one-handed pleat sweep, which usually takes a little extra adjusting once I've sat down. I often just stand on the subway, but prefer to take a seat on the bus. Depends how far I'm going.
Andrew.
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27th February 08, 12:50 PM
#30
Andrew, ever have any issues while boarding the street cars? Those Austrian-style ones are sooo high above the ground!
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