US Campaign Ribbons

[KiltedCoastie]

USCG UNIFORM REGS:
3.B.1. Dinner Dress Blue Jacket
Dress Coat Buttons
Substitute CG buttons for Navy buttons for both men and women.
Blue Evening Trousers
For men: CG Tartan or appropriate authorized Tartan optional IAW 4.E.3.
Blue Formal Skirt/Slacks
For women: skirt or slacks optional.
Formal White Shirt
Men: white pique long sleeve shirt with wing tip collar.
Women: soft pleated long sleeve.
Waistcoat
White pique cloth for men only.
Gold Cummerbund
For women only.
Tie
Men: white bow tie. Women: black formal dress necktie.
Small Medals
Men: worn 3” below left lapel notch.
Women: 1/3 of distance between shoulder & bottom hem of jacket.
Miniature Qualification Insignia, Devices, and
Small Identification Badges
White Gloves
At prescribing officers discretion.
White Suspenders
Optional for men.
Black Socks or Hosiery
Socks are worn with oxfords, hosiery with pumps or flats.
Black Oxford Shoes
Oxfords are worn with trousers for men.
Black Pumps or Flats
Pumps or flats are worn with formal dress skirt or slacks for women.
Head Gear
Combination cap for men or women; tiara optional for women.
Occasions for Wear
(After 6:00 P.M.)
Official evening functions when civilians wear formal white tie and tails such as diplomatic service, ceremonial events, formal wedding party. Prescribed for Flag Officers, Captains, MCPOCG, Area CMC’s and personnel assigned to duty where required by protocol.

[Highland Logan]

USCG UNIFORM REGS:
3.B.1. Dinner Dress Blue Jacket
Dress Coat Buttons
Substitute CG buttons for Navy buttons for both men and women.
Blue Evening Trousers
For men: CG Tartan or appropriate authorized Tartan optional IAW 4.E.3.
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Have the rules changed since Feb 2009? I took a look at the USCG Dress Regs, and could find no mention of tartan or kilt other than for band use only. Not to stick a bee in your bonnet... so when did the regs. change?

Frank

[KiltedCoastie]

When I changed them in the post

[Highland Logan]

When I changed them in the post

Kind of lowers your credibility a tad, or if you prefer a nautical term, the wind has been removed from your sails.

Frank

[KiltedCoastie]

It was supposed to be a joke. But to be lectured by civilians as to the proper wear of my uniform that I have earned the right to wear, a combat vetern--active duty officer, is rather insulting. One thing I have learned is nothing really bothers me too much, especially how to wear a kilt. If the man wears it proudly no one is going to question his attire, no matter how anal some people can be. I have seen way too much death in my short life to worry about something so simple.
As far as credibility, I have established that through diligent devotion to duty and my country.

[Highland Logan]

It was supposed to be a joke. But to be lectured by civilians as to the proper wear of my uniform that I have earned the right to wear, a combat vetern--active duty officer, is rather insulting. One thing I have learned is nothing really bothers me too much, especially how to wear a kilt. If the man wears it proudly no one is going to question his attire, no matter how anal some people can be. I have seen way too much death in my short life to worry about something so simple.
As far as credibility, I have established that through diligent devotion to duty and my country.

Really!? I'm not US Coast Guard, but I served my country for 13 years in the Army, and in Canada at least you were expected to wear your uniform properly... that's pride! Not self indulgence in wanted to change it to suit ones self. Any man or woman who thought they had some right to change their uniform would never have my respect. And as to your joke; you did nothing to indicate that you were having us on, you stated it as fact because MoR took you to task.

Frank

[Chas]

Time for PMs maybe?

Regards

Chas

[Highland Logan]

Time for PMs maybe?

Regards

Chas

Good suggestion... but I said my peace, I'm done with this.

Frank

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

It was supposed to be a joke.

I can accept that your comments were originally intended as a joke, and that as someone fairly new to the forum you would be unaware that matters relating to the military tend to be taken rather seriously by some of us.

But to be lectured by civilians as to the proper wear of my uniform that I have earned the right to wear, a combat vetern--active duty officer, is rather insulting.

If you were "lectured", that lecturing was down to you-- you were the one who made the case (falsely, as it turns out) that specific military regulations sanctioned the wearing of items of civilian clothes with your Coast Guard uniform. Writing as a former army officer-- now a civilian-- I might point out that there are many highly decorated combat veterans on this forum, and generally they do not beat their breast and crow about it. It's not "the done thing" as it tends to look a trifle self-serving.

One thing I have learned is nothing really bothers me too much, especially how to wear a kilt.

So you say...

If the man wears it proudly no one is going to question his attire, no matter how anal some people can be.

Since this offensive comment is obviously directed at me, for having had the temerity to disagree with you, I am going to have to ask you for an apology, or else mark you down as no sort of a gentleman.

I have seen way too much death in my short life to worry about something so simple.

Then why the insults and the rant?

As far as credibility, I have established that through diligent devotion to duty and my country.

Your credibility, at least a tiny bit of it, has been called into question through your own actions. No one has questioned your patriotism.

There are many men and women on this site who are serving, or have served, in the military. While intensely proud of their service, as they should most rightly be, they are also very self-effacing about that service. They do not use the fact of their service to justify their actions, and they never imply that because of their service they are above criticism-- either from the military or civilians.

[Chas]

Time for PMs maybe?
Regards
Chas

Or not as the case may be.

Regards

Chas