I think I might just take it upon myself, buy him a pretty simple balmoral, remove the torrie and tell him to deal with it.. LOL

I know in this thread http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-attire-46888/ He liked Jamie's look in pic 3, with the polo shirt.. but did not like the "ball" on the balmoral... which is why he was thinking about going with the military beret.. but, if its acceptable to actually remove the toorie, I might be able to get him to warm up to the idea..

Mookien, in that first thread you posted - he's more to lean towards post #5's look.. hahah