Quote Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Bring on the skirted hordes of girlie men...let us to war!

Bear, you're point!

Ron
From what I understand, the war was what instigated the development of this site. Do we really want to repeat history?

I understand Bear's point. I'm not ready to draw a line in the sand, but a line will have to be drawn at some point. I think Bear may be drawing it here, with this manufacturer, because J'Dez is trying to pass off feminine style clothing as men's wear in the other lines he sells, and this is simply a renaming of a traditionally feminine undergarment. Perhaps if he had come to the kilt-wearing community for suggestions, and developed something on our recommendations that addressed our needs and and took into account our preferences (such as that loincloth idea someone had) then he might have gotten a better reception.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the desire for an undergarment of some kind, but part of the premise for this site is to define the masculine from the feminie, and if when shown a picture of the "underkilt, my wife said "That's a slip," then I'd say it's awfully close to the line.