I agree with Rocky and Steve on the wool over the PV, a well made wool kilt has the all that your looking for in a kilt ,but i am allergic to wool so a great alternatvie for is the PV, I went through a great many fabrics to finds the right stuff I own wool kilts and when I do wear them i suffer so when I found the PV from MM it was perfect for what I needed it for, the next best thing . I wear my PV kilts in the winter but not to shovel the drive way, I did wear a kilt out on the Rideau canal but I put long johns on, thanks to Steve's suggestion. Personally I love the wool kilts and i make them for customers but I really love the PV, its been a dream to work with.