well im glad to finaly know a bit about my clans, my family members have found nothing but dead ends while tracing lineage. thanks all once again. i understand it is part of the house of gordon, and that aitken has their own tartan. is it safe then to asume that the crest is the same as gordon? thanks for the ramage crest, if anyone can help find the tartan to it as than i thank you ahead of time