Quote Originally Posted by Danwell View Post
I think you might be misunderstanding? These are both "Piper's Brogues" as I said in my fist post, but they're made by different companies. They both have rubber soles with the metal cleat in them. If you click on the pictures (I made them link back to their respective websites), you'll see what I mean.
Well, that's what I get for looking at the pictures, rather than clicking on them. But the pair I have are the same brand as the first ones, and they're still going strong after a few parade seasons of wear, so I don't think you'd have a problem with those.