Irish Propaganda Posters?

[English Bloke]

Yeah, let's all gang up on the King's first cousin Willie!

hehehe... Depends on which version of the historical fact you follow.

I prefer this one:

If the First World War was a Bar Fight it would go something like this.

Germany, Austria and Italy are standing together in the middle of a pub when Serbia bumps into Austria and spills Austria’s pint.

Austria demands Serbia buy it a complete new suit because there are splashes on its trouser leg.

Germany expresses its support for Austria’s point of view.

Britain recommends that everyone calm down a bit.

Serbia points out that it can’t afford a whole suit, but offers to pay for the cleaning of Austria’s trousers.

Russia and Serbia look at Austria.

Austria asks Serbia who it’s looking at.

Russia suggests that Austria should leave its little brother alone.

Austria inquires as to whose army will assist Russia in compelling it to do so.

Germany appeals to Britain that France has been looking at it, and that this is sufficiently out of order that Britain should not intervene.

Britain replies that France can look at who it wants to, that Britain is looking at Germany too, and what is Germany going to do about it?

Germany tells Russia to stop looking at Austria, or Germany will render Russia incapable of such action.

Britain and France ask Germany whether it’s looking at Belgium.

Turkey and Germany go off into a corner and whisper. When they come back, Turkey makes a show of not looking at anyone.

Germany rolls up its sleeves, looks at France, and punches Belgium.

France and Britain punch Germany. Austria punches Russia. Germany punches Britain and France with one hand and Russia with the other.

Russia throws a punch at Germany, but misses and nearly falls over. Japan calls over from the other side of the room that it’s on Britain’s side, but stays there. Italy surprises everyone by punching Austria.

Australia punches Turkey, and gets punched back. There are no hard feelings because Britain made Australia do it.

France gets thrown through a plate glass window, but gets back up and carries on fighting. Russia gets thrown through another one, gets knocked out, suffers brain damage, and wakes up with a complete personality change.

Italy throws a punch at Austria and misses, but Austria falls over anyway. Italy raises both fists in the air and runs round the room chanting.

America waits till Germany is about to fall over from sustained punching from Britain and France, then walks over and smashes it with a barstool, then pretends it won the fight all by itself.

By now all the chairs are broken and the big mirror over the bar is shattered. Britain, France and America agree that Germany threw the first punch, so the whole thing is Germany’s fault . While Germany is still unconscious, they go through its pockets, steal its wallet, and buy drinks for all their friends.

The End.

[macwilkin]

The second poster appears to me as a modern version of a WWI poster.

That being said, in regards to the "green flag" being flown, it should be noted that during the First World War the followers of John Redmond, a moderate Nationalist politicians, did enlist in the Irish regiments of the British Army. There was the 16th (Irish) Division, which was made up of a number of Southern Irish regiments, and there was a move for the 16th to adopt the "Green flag" for the Division and as a formation sign, much as the 36th (Ulster) Division had adopted the Red Hand of Ulster. Unfortunately, Whitehall rejected such proposal.

Redmond's son Willie, by the way, was killed with the 16th on the Western Front.

T.

[Jock Scot]

hehehe... Depends on which version of the historical fact you follow.

I prefer this one:

If the First World War was a Bar Fight it would go something like this.

Germany, Austria and Italy are standing together in the middle of a pub when Serbia bumps into Austria and spills Austria’s pint.

Austria demands Serbia buy it a complete new suit because there are splashes on its trouser leg.

Germany expresses its support for Austria’s point of view.

Britain recommends that everyone calm down a bit.

Serbia points out that it can’t afford a whole suit, but offers to pay for the cleaning of Austria’s trousers.

Russia and Serbia look at Austria.

Austria asks Serbia who it’s looking at.

Russia suggests that Austria should leave its little brother alone.

Austria inquires as to whose army will assist Russia in compelling it to do so.

Germany appeals to Britain that France has been looking at it, and that this is sufficiently out of order that Britain should not intervene.

Britain replies that France can look at who it wants to, that Britain is looking at Germany too, and what is Germany going to do about it?

Germany tells Russia to stop looking at Austria, or Germany will render Russia incapable of such action.

Britain and France ask Germany whether it’s looking at Belgium.

Turkey and Germany go off into a corner and whisper. When they come back, Turkey makes a show of not looking at anyone.

Germany rolls up its sleeves, looks at France, and punches Belgium.

France and Britain punch Germany. Austria punches Russia. Germany punches Britain and France with one hand and Russia with the other.

Russia throws a punch at Germany, but misses and nearly falls over. Japan calls over from the other side of the room that it’s on Britain’s side, but stays there. Italy surprises everyone by punching Austria.

Australia punches Turkey, and gets punched back. There are no hard feelings because Britain made Australia do it.

France gets thrown through a plate glass window, but gets back up and carries on fighting. Russia gets thrown through another one, gets knocked out, suffers brain damage, and wakes up with a complete personality change.

Italy throws a punch at Austria and misses, but Austria falls over anyway. Italy raises both fists in the air and runs round the room chanting.

America waits till Germany is about to fall over from sustained punching from Britain and France, then walks over and smashes it with a barstool, then pretends it won the fight all by itself.

By now all the chairs are broken and the big mirror over the bar is shattered. Britain, France and America agree that Germany threw the first punch, so the whole thing is Germany’s fault . While Germany is still unconscious, they go through its pockets, steal its wallet, and buy drinks for all their friends.

The End.

Yep that is pretty much it, I'd say EB. If it was not so tragic, I would put a laughter sign there, but somehow I can't.

[triolamj]

Note the Dublin location on the first poster instead of say Belfast. Blue is associated with St Patrick and Munster, but not Ireland as a whole. The field is always green and the harp is always gold. Which one was Wales? I'm used to seeing the 3-feather crown and "Ich Dien" from rugby.

[Burly Brute]

Burly, thanks so much for posting these. I'd never seen anything like them. Loved them so much I had to do a search on it and found the first one on ebay (my favorite of the two), which is now on it's way to be framed and hung on the wall.

I am glad! That is why I post stuff like this!

[Cygnus]

Note the Dublin location on the first poster instead of say Belfast. Blue is associated with St Patrick and Munster, but not Ireland as a whole. The field is always green and the harp is always gold. ...

If you're referring to the actual arms of Ireland, if the field is green, it isn't correct.

While Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source, if you do a Google search for "arms of Ireland" you'll be hard pressed to find any with a green field.

[English Bloke]

I wouldn't want you to think I don't take it seriously Jock. I have family (all be it distant) in the ground in Belgium who also spilled blood at Gallipoli and I do not forget.

You'll have seen from other threads I've posted that I have passed this respectful remembrance onto my kids as well, and they do not want to forget either.

We can however forgive.

No denying it was all an awful tragedy. I've studied it at great length but I do think that it is the best and most amusing summary of it all that I have seen.

Please be assured I'm not trying to detract from the solemnity in any way. "Lest we forget"

I'll stop hijacking this thread now. Sorry.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Note the Dublin location on the first poster instead of say Belfast. Blue is associated with St Patrick and Munster, but not Ireland as a whole. The field is always green and the harp is always gold. Which one was Wales? I'm used to seeing the 3-feather crown and "Ich Dien" from rugby.

The arms of Ireland are: azure, a harp or.

The flag of Ireland (pre- independence and partition) was: argent a saltire gules. The Green flag with the gold harp is, erroneously, attributed to Lord Edward FizGerald, and was used by the United Irishmen during the 1798 uprising.

The arms of Wales are: quarterly 1 & 4 or a lion passant guardant gules, 2 & 3 gules a lion passant guardant or. Indeed, these arms, surmounted by the crown of the heir-apparent, are borne in an escutcheon of pretense on the arms of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales.

The flag of Wales is per fess argent and vert a dragon gules (this being the old livery badge of the Tudors).

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

I wouldn't want you to think I don't take it seriously Jock. I have family (all be it distant) in the ground in Belgium who also spilled blood at Gallipoli and I do not forget.

You'll have seen from other threads I've posted that I have passed this respectful remembrance onto my kids as well, and they do not want to forget either.

We can however forgive.

No denying it was all an awful tragedy. I've studied it at great length but I do think that it is the best and most amusing summary of it all that I have seen.

Please be assured I'm not trying to detract from the solemnity in any way. "Lest we forget"

I'll stop hijacking this thread now. Sorry.

I am reminded of an episode on the GOON SHOW when Spike Milligan broke into the broadcast with:

"We interrupt this broadcast with an important announcement. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has been found alive. The First World War was a mistake."

[triolamj]

Now that we've got the heraldic details out of the way (at least as of WWI), what do you make of the solid color kilt, the tam with a cock feather, the Lovat-shade socks, and the Mary Janes in the first poster? The jacket is obviously battledress adapted for the kilt. From pictures that I've seen of Irish pipers competing in London in the early 1900s, the solid kilt and the tam are common, but was there a Royal Irish unit with pipers attached? And can anyone make out whether that's a unit flag in the background right and which unit?