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    Re: Black Cap Toe Oxfords NO!

    NOT captoes. If you are spending on custom, go for WHOLECUTS, which are cut from a single piece of leather and are absolutely completely plain. And you won't see another pair like them in three days time, instead of everybody having them. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pal-Zileri-W...item2a0f1a6258
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    Re: Black Cap Toe Oxfords NO!

    Quote Originally Posted by MacLowlife View Post
    NOT captoes. If you are spending on custom, go for WHOLECUTS, which are cut from a single piece of leather and are absolutely completely plain. And you won't see another pair like them in three days time, instead of everybody having them. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pal-Zileri-W...item2a0f1a6258
    Ah MacLowlife, ever the one with an interesting take on things, aren't you? Since you suggested that, I've been looking at some wholecuts but somehow they look a little TOO plain... are they formal enough for wearing with a black tie Highland attire?

    Several people have mentioned that they don't really like cap toes. Would any of those people care to suggest an alternative or are you tacitly agreeing with MacLowlife?

    If anything, I favour the whole cuts I've seen with a bit of detail on the toe:
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    Several people have mentioned they like the last pic from my original post, and English Bloke especially! Those are the "Bert" model made by Grenson and go for £170.00.

    There is something very streamlined about the stitching being hidden on the cap rather than doubled up like other shoes. And the "swoop" of the design is just slick... contemporary but still classic.

    The more I look at them, the more I like them...









    I believe they do come in other colours too...
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    Re: Black Cap Toe Oxfords NO!

    Quote Originally Posted by CMcG View Post
    Several people have mentioned that they don't really like cap toes. Would any of those people care to suggest an alternative or are you tacitly agreeing with MacLowlife?
    I don't like cap toes for myself because they remind me too much of steel-toe or paratrooper boots. I'm not partial to smooth-tops either as they are just too plain for me. I'm also not a big fan of the current trend of what I call "duckbills"... those flat, square toed, seam topped ones. For dress or informal shoes (not my boots or Nikes) this is what I wear:



    L-R, Florsheim cordovans, unk. mnfg black leather, synthetic leather for outdoors, and the only "smooth-top" I wear now, Sketcher buckles (generally for winter).

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    Re: Black Cap Toe Oxfords NO!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey View Post
    I don't like cap toes for myself because they remind me too much of steel-toe or paratrooper boots. I'm not partial to smooth-tops either as they are just too plain for me. I'm also not a big fan of the current trend of what I call "duckbills"... those flat, square toed, seam topped ones. For dress or informal shoes (not my boots or Nikes) this is what I wear:
    Thanks for sharing that Mickey.

    I already have a good pair of brogues with a thick, comfy rubber sole, but my second hand cap toes are on their last legs. I've also got a nearly, new second hand pair of dress ghillie brogues with a thin leather sole but I wouldn't wear those with a suit

    In replacing the cap toes, I haven't found anything else that is quite as versatile and also on the upper end of formality. On the other hand, MacLowlife is seriously tempting me with the thought of black whole cuts, in fine grain leather, and some perforation detailing on the toe...

    Also, I guess I'm still stuck on the thinner sole = more formal thing... I might just have to ask the shoe maker how thin they can make those Dainite soles... Here's a stock pic of my brogues and, just for Father Bill, one of the "angelic" sole. Please note that they are alkali, water, acid, fatigue, and SATAN resistant


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