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8th October 11, 02:44 PM
#91
Re: floor length womens kilts
Originally Posted by Pleater
Politics is a 'go go' area for this forum, and you have picked a real hot potato subject. However, you seem to be answering the question yourself.
You feel drawn to the Derry side of your inheritance, and the tartan, so I would say go for it - but wear it out of regard for the people who made up your family rather than what you believe anyone else might think, or what anyone has done for that matter.
I would say check carefully first though.
I used to know someone who declared themselves to be descended from a famous rebel, the family had been in exile for decades for fear of reprisal, who sang the songs and lamented the land - only to discover that the red hair was nothing to do with Ireland, it was inherited from a East coast herring packer with a Scandinavian father who had adopted the English surname sounding closest to her foreign one.
Anne the Pleater :ootd:
Thank you, Pleater I think I will get the Derry first. Its natural to feel more drawn to one thing over another and my family is really proud of our Cork heritage and probably dont know a lot about our Londonderry heritage. If I sported Londonderry, they would be like "why arent you wearing Cork?" which is another contributing factor...I grew up hearing about Cork...I never heard about Derry until this week.
But for some reason, Derry attracts me more. I will just go with Derry I think and save Cork for another time.
As for checking for accuracy of where we are from, I definitely know 100% that my Kanes are Derry Kanes. Got it on death records Im so glad my family hung onto those. Saved me a LOT of research.
Last edited by Meggers; 8th October 11 at 03:29 PM.
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10th October 11, 07:26 AM
#92
Re: floor length womens kilts
Hi Meghan,
In practice, no one will know the identity of the Irish county tartans, unless they ask you & you tell them. They are not widely recognized, and have not official standing with the governments; but I think that some of them are quite attractive.
Just get the one that feels right to you, and I doubt that you'll have any trouble from the cousins.
Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
gainfully unemployed systems programmer
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10th October 11, 08:58 AM
#93
Re: floor length womens kilts
Originally Posted by fluter
Hi Meghan,
In practice, no one will know the identity of the Irish county tartans, unless they ask you & you tell them. They are not widely recognized, and have not official standing with the governments; but I think that some of them are quite attractive.
Just get the one that feels right to you, and I doubt that you'll have any trouble from the cousins.
Yeah I figured as much I decided on Londonderry first. Its so autumny and lovely and the colors are brighter than the muted colors in Cork. Corks will come later
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10th October 11, 01:52 PM
#94
Re: floor length womens kilts
Meghan, while I’m glad you have found a tartan you like, I thought you might like to know that there are two others for Derry that you might like also.
The one is called County Derry, Crest Range (the tartans in that series are based on the colours of the county coats of arms), and the other is Freedom of Derry. Both are quite attractive.
The city and the county were both long known as Londonderry (the city was built to a large extent by settlers recruited from London), but the county is now more usually called Derry, and the city is also widely known as Derry (especially among Irish republicans and northern Roman Catholics).
This is a hot-button issue for many folk (unfortunately), but your family would probably be happier if you used the name Derry.
Regards,
Mike
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life.
[Proverbs 14:27]
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10th October 11, 02:00 PM
#95
Re: floor length womens kilts
Originally Posted by Mike_Oettle
Meghan, while I’m glad you have found a tartan you like, I thought you might like to know that there are two others for Derry that you might like also.
The one is called County Derry, Crest Range (the tartans in that series are based on the colours of the county coats of arms), and the other is Freedom of Derry. Both are quite attractive.
The city and the county were both long known as Londonderry (the city was built to a large extent by settlers recruited from London), but the county is now more usually called Derry, and the city is also widely known as Derry (especially among Irish republicans and northern Roman Catholics).
This is a hot-button issue for many folk (unfortunately), but your family would probably be happier if you used the name Derry.
Regards,
Mike
Thank you for the information I wish I knew this history long ago. I would have had so much fun researching it! Better late than never
The crest range Derry tartan was gorgeous. I really like it. The only problem is I dont know how widely available it is. I know a lot of mills make the regular County Derry tartan but Ive never seen these other two on the lists. Do you think they are harder to get ahold of?
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11th October 11, 12:06 PM
#96
Re: floor length womens kilts
Bias cut, A-line is an option.
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11th October 11, 12:08 PM
#97
Re: floor length womens kilts
You might also look through this very old thread....
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-thread-35990/
I'm sure that many of the picture links are now dead, but surely some will provide some ideas.
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12th October 11, 08:49 AM
#98
Re: floor length womens kilts
Not sure what luck you will have tracking that sett down, Meghan. The Crest Range was designed by Viking Technologies, which is connected to Tartanweb. However a search on Tartanweb failed to turn it up. But it might be worth inquiring.
Many thanks, Alan, for the link to the earlier discussion. Even with the large number of red Xs, there are some most interesting illustrations.
Regards,
Mike
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life.
[Proverbs 14:27]
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12th October 11, 09:10 AM
#99
Re: floor length womens kilts
The Irish Crest range is woven by Marton Mills, but as far as I know they are only stocked in medium weight cloth. House of Edgar also weaves an Irish range and that includes a light weight cloth suitable for skirts.
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12th October 11, 10:08 AM
#100
Re: floor length womens kilts
yeah I was told that the crest range is only in 13oz which is a bit heavier than the usual 11oz tartan used to make womens skirts.
I think I will just stick with regular Londonderry It's pretty and I like it.
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