Need help identifying kilt maker

[chrisupyonder]

http://www.heritageofscotland.com/Ca...34,product.php

I bought one 2 weeks ago and just got another in Black Watch while the discount offer is on. Both need turning up 2 inches so not worn them yet. Seem ok for a knockabout kilt so can keep my £300 tank for special occasions.

Chris.

Sorry about quoting myself but I thought you may be interested in this.

I received my second kilt, a black watch 8yd poly from above and I am not at all happy with it. I will be returning it to H of S. The first one was MacLeod of Harris Ancient, is ok for the price. The material is fairly stiff and holds the pleats well. The second one I only opened on Wednesday and it is just not the same material. It is very soft and limp, creases very easiley and after pressing looks no better. I can almost form a crease in a fold with my hand. The material looks more suitable as cushion material. It is unwearable and I am sending this back and will try another tartan. If no better I will ask for my money back.
I cannot understand how 2 kilts advertised as the same material can be so different.

I have now learned my lesson the hard way. A wool kilt is much, much better. I wore my 16oz 8yd Lochcarron Strome hand made to measure tank almost every day on my recent 6 week tour of Scotland including driving every day and it never needed pressing and the pleats are still crisp. If it did get creased in the car, they quickly dissapeared once I was stood up or hung it up overnight. I paid £280 for this tank and it is much easier to wear and fits perfectly.

At over £100 including shipping for these 2 Poly-whatever kilts which still need turning up 2 inches, I am now sorry I bothered as £100 is a good chunk towards another wool tank. I will never buy another poly and am now saving for another tank from my local kilt shop in Thurso. As far as wearing a tank on a daily basis, no problem, it will probably last years.

Just thought I would let you all know.

Chris.

[The Wizard of BC]

This forum started up just as the world was being introduced to all sorts of new ideas about how to make a kilt and how to market them.
Since our beginnings we have been faced with the cunudrum of how to treat these newer types and styles of kilt.

There is one thing that this forum is very good at. That is the passing on of information. Sometimes that information can be seen as positive and sometimes negative.

We have been trying to inform each other for years that just because a kilt is advertised as, for example - "Heavy weight P/V" that the truth may be something different.
We have been telling people for years that there is only one reputable weaving mill producing kilt-worthy true P/V. That the correct meaning of P/V is - fabric made of a blend of Polyester and Rayon. That the one weaving mill produces only one weight and it is 12oz per linear yard.

I don't think anyone here honestly thinks that getting people into kilts is a bad thing. I do think that the majority will agree that the marketing used to sell some kilts can be misleading to the uninformed.

That is what makes this forum so important. Why we all need to pass along the word that this forum is here, is available to anyone who wishes to wear a kilt, and is full of honest and factual information.

It is this forum that has been informing people that the labels as shown in the opening post of this thread are the ones used by the myrid of kiltmakers based in Sailkot, Pakistan. (at my last count over 150 of them) That the majority of these kilt are woven of an Acrylic fiber. That these kilts are different from a 'Tank'. Not necessarily better or worse, but different.

It should not matter that one of our members buys one of these kilts. It should not matter, as long as they are informed and know what they are buying.
What does matter is that too often the uninformed buy these because the do not know from the labels or the sales pitch what they are really getting for their hard earned dollar.

We really need to stop fighting among ourselves and do what we do best. Pass on honest and factual information in a respectful and friendly way.

We need to recognize that some of our members want and would like a kilt that costs less than $100.00 so they can go to the pub and not need to worry if it gets a beer spilled on it, or while mowing the lawn on a really hot sticky day. We need to accept that the less expensive alternative to a Tank is a viable garment for many of our members, their intended use, their lifestyle and budget.

As long as they are informed! As long as they know what they are buying and are happy with their kilt. That really is the only thing that is important.

The OP of this thread asked a valid question. The label in his kilt did not state the manufacturer. He liked the kilt and wanted to know where he could get another one. We should have given him the information.

[MacMillans son]

The OP of this thread asked a valid question. The label in his kilt did not state the manufacturer. He liked the kilt and wanted to know where he could get another one. We should have given him the information.

Please, allow me.

I too own one of these type kilts, and am extremely satisfied with it for it's intended purpose. I wear it regularly when doing extended hikes, and it has served me well. If it were to get damaged, beyond being wearable, I would likely buy another just like it. As these kilts are likely manufactured by different makers, I am not sure who actually constructed it, but I bought it from these folks

http://buyakilt.com/kilts/budget-kilts

They provided prompt courteous service, and their product has provided me with a lot of great use to date without any sign of faltering.

You can purchase kilts with this same label at most Highland games here in the states, and I have noticed that they come in two different grades. I believe they are denoted by the terms "Premium" and "Standard", or something similar, and the prices reflect the differences in the feel of the material used. If I remember correctly the Premium goes for around $110 and the Standard around $65.

Best of luck and enjoy your kilting!

Regards,
Brooke

[chrisupyonder]

Most of these kilts are made by this company...
http://www.scottishwearco.com/wc_hm_qk/formal.php?id=14

The factory is in Sialkot, Pakistan. Kilts and other uniforms have been made here since a base was established in 1852 by the British Indian Army so have almost as long a history of kilt making as the UK.
I believe Gold Brothers and Buyakilt.com source their kilts from here.
In all probabilty, it would have been the British/Scottish that set up this factory in the first place.

Chris.

[DireStraitsFan]

Please, allow me.

I too own one of these type kilts, and am extremely satisfied with it for it's intended purpose. I wear it regularly when doing extended hikes, and it has served me well. If it were to get damaged, beyond being wearable, I would likely buy another just like it. As these kilts are likely manufactured by different makers, I am not sure who actually constructed it, but I bought it from these folks

http://buyakilt.com/kilts/budget-kilts

They provided prompt courteous service, and their product has provided me with a lot of great use to date without any sign of faltering.

You can purchase kilts with this same label at most Highland games here in the states, and I have noticed that they come in two different grades. I believe they are denoted by the terms "Premium" and "Standard", or something similar, and the prices reflect the differences in the feel of the material used. If I remember correctly the Premium goes for around $110 and the Standard around $65.

Best of luck and enjoy your kilting!

Regards,
Brooke

Thank you! That was really all I was looking for. You've answered my question completely. Have a good day!

[Thomas H]

All is well that ends well.

[Fergus Macdonald]

Please, allow me.

I too own one of these type kilts, and am extremely satisfied with it for it's intended purpose. I wear it regularly when doing extended hikes, and it has served me well. If it were to get damaged, beyond being wearable, I would likely buy another just like it. As these kilts are likely manufactured by different makers, I am not sure who actually constructed it, but I bought it from these folks

http://buyakilt.com/kilts/budget-kilts

They provided prompt courteous service, and their product has provided me with a lot of great use to date without any sign of faltering.

Regards,
Brooke

Thanks! Great to hear you're happy with our service.

[DireStraitsFan]

[QUOTE=The OP of this thread asked a valid question. The label in his kilt did not state the manufacturer. He liked the kilt and wanted to know where he could get another one. We should have given him the information.[/QUOTE]

Thank you, sir. I could not, and would not, disagree with anything you've said here, and I appreciate the kindness.