'Fraid I'm the guilty party - I made the thread scoot into the moderator only section and then couldn't find the 'put explanation here' box.

In the words of Rule 11 - it was going downhill fast.

On a scale of 1 to 10 the argument was up to around 15, but hopefully it can be pruned of the off topic posts and restored to the open forum.

If you didn't get to read the offensive comments - that is good - the system is working -

Anne the Pleater :ootd: