Does anyone make this style coatee?

[JSFMACLJR]

Maybe. But also look at the number of buttons and, particularly, that the lowest button appears to be on the other side of the front which is quite odd in itself

To me it clearly looks like a jacket that has not been fastened by choice rather than by design but it would be impossible to button with the buttons where they are placed

It's merely the impresssion I get looking at the detail but I may well be wrong

Did you look at the buttons in the pic I posted? Exactly like the painting.

Buttons don't necessarily have to do up. Highlanders liked them for ornamentation, too.

[davidg]

Did you look at the buttons in the pic I posted? Exactly like the painting.

Yes, of course I did but I see no real similarity at all. Your jacket has a shawl collar with a set of decorative buttons on one lapel. On the painting I do not see lapels anywhere, what I see is a doublet that is open and has a collar similar to a Montrose, with a little gap at the throat. On one side I see buttonholes, on the other side I see five buttons that appear to be on the wrong face of the jacket and a sixth button that is on the correct face. That is quite bizarre

Buttons don't necessarily have to do up. Highlanders liked them for ornamentation, too.

No, of course they don't. But like in the photograph the jacket is always made to look as though it could button up and either both sides would be decorated with buttons or one side buttoned, the other side button holed. I might be wrong but these simply do not look like lapels at all as there is no notch or attachment to the collar, looking more like an open doublet fastening at the neck with the facings falling back on each other. Unbutton the jacket from the photo and it would flap back to look identical, but with the buttons normally disappearing from view

Just opinions and we all see things differently

[JSFMACLJR]

Yes, of course I did but I see no real similarity at all. Your jacket has a shawl collar with a set of decorative buttons on one lapel. On the painting I do not see lapels anywhere, what I see is a doublet that is open and has a collar similar to a Montrose, with a little gap at the throat. On one side I see buttonholes, on the other side I see five buttons that appear to be on the wrong face of the jacket and a sixth button that is on the correct face. That is quite bizarre




No, of course they don't. But like in the photograph the jacket is always made to look as though it could button up and either both sides would be decorated with buttons or one side buttoned, the other side button holed. I might be wrong but these simply do not look like lapels at all as there is no notch or attachment to the collar, looking more like an open doublet fastening at the neck with the facings falling back on each other. Unbutton the jacket from the photo and it would flap back to look identical, but with the buttons normally disappearing from view

Just opinions and we all see things differently

When one blows up the painting, the lapels are very obvious, leaving no doubt as to how the buttons are placed. Lapels do not have to attach to the collar, as you state.


The doublet belonging to my friend does not have shawl lapels. Take a very close look. Actually, one doesn't need to look all that closely.

[CMcG]

I think JSFMACLJR had a good idea to blow the image up so we can see it better.