That's interesting, Downunder Kilt, thanks for measuring and explaining.. It sounds like the back sides of the box pleats don't come all the way together and touch on that style. I hadn't thought of that.

It should be easy to rig up some loops, straps and rings on my kilt or a belt for pockets and such, when I get around to it.

I'm in the middle of planning and making a wildflower garden right at the moment.