Quote Originally Posted by Tobus View Post
While it may not be 'traditional', I thought it worked just fine, wearing a tie with a mess jacket. Aesthetically, it works for me because the kilt is worn higher than trousers, and so the tie is tied shorter. This is just my personal opinion, of course, but even with the short mess jacket (or a PC for that matter), a regular tie can work, sans waistcoat, if it's tied so that it stops at the buckle.

The lapels on my mess jacket are not self-faced, though. They are satin, or some other material that's shinier than the jacket itself.

(edit: note the presence of exposed knees, lol)

I rescind my statement about the lapels, Tobus - admirably done! I'll feel much more comfortable donning the mess jacket as an informal piece after seeing that.