A grant in honor and matriculation

**Bluescelt** · 29th November 11, 01:02 PM

I was lucky that all my documents except for ggreat grandfather's were in neighboring towns so research and copies were easy to get. I was surprised that his birth record came from edinburgh 14 day after I mailed the request.

**creagdhubh** · 29th November 11, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR

If you have not yet been in contact with Lyon Clerk, I would suggest you do so before petitioning. She will make the whole process go much smoother and will answer all the questions you might have.

Precisely.

**Sketraw** · 29th November 11, 05:59 PM

Scott, left you a message on FaceBook. Hope we can speak soon.

John

**Gregmc** · 29th November 11, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Chas

My understanding, is that you can do them both at the same time. Otherwise you would have two documents (the grant & the matriculation), which would be twice the price.

When it comes to the artwork stage, you don't have to have the Lord Lyon's painter; there are others. The standard artwork can leave a lot to be desired. John Duncan of Sketraw (a member here) won't display his grant, because it is so badly done. You can see where they painted the shield incorrectly and then touched it up to make it right.

John will be able to give you better advice, PM me if you want his email address.

Regards

Chas

As for artwork; I say go with Anthony Wood, he's the best there is. Niel Bromley is a close second

**piperdbh** · 30th November 11, 10:49 AM

BluesCelt,
Could you tell us what the arms are, or at least a good description? I know very little about heraldry, but I like to look at the pictures.

**JSFMACLJR** · 30th November 11, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Gregmc

As for artwork; I say go with Anthony Wood, he's the best there is. Niel Bromley is a close second

Great artists, but more in the English style of heraldic painting.

**creagdhubh** · 30th November 11, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR

Great artists, but more in the English style of heraldic painting.

Quite. And there is a difference in style and overall aesthetic. Roderick Gordon Macpherson is personally one of my favourites - and not just because he is a Macpherson, and an active member of the Clan Macpherson Association.

**Gregmc** · 30th November 11, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR

Great artists, but more in the English style of heraldic painting.

They paint Scots arms as well. Who do you like?

**JSFMACLJR** · 30th November 11, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Gregmc

They paint Scots arms as well. Who so you like?

Oh, I'm not disputing that! One of the best heraldic artists IMHO is Andrew Jamieson, who is better known for his emblazonments of English arms but does excellent work with Scots arms. Of course Yvonne Holton, Dingwall Pursuivant of Arms and Herald Painter to the Court of the Lord Lyon, does fabulous work! I'm very partial to Patricia Bertram, but she may be in full retirement now. And then there is Mark Dennis, Ormond Pursuivant of Arms . Wonderful!

**Bluescelt** · 30th November 11, 12:54 PM

piperdbh,
I don't have a definate design yet but what I'm leaning towards would be a variation of a traditional Duncan arms. The upper portion very much like John Duncan's arms in his avatar. below the chevron I was thinking a green field with some sort of oak leaves/acorns. This would represent my duncan heritage in the upper and the oak for me represents connecticut (oak is our state tree), where my ancestors from Scotland settled.