Member ripped me off

**Nighthawk** · 19th December 11, 08:46 AM

***sigh*** That sucks, Hugh. I know it tool me a while to get your sporran to you, but at least I kept in touch and showed you pictures of why it was taking as long as it did... I can't imagine doing that to someone. And I have to say that as an upstart myself, I appreciated your business and faith.

**Mark R** · 19th December 11, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by biblemonkey

The typical PayPal protection is a limited number of weeks to bring a complaint and have your money returned in case of a problem. This was not a registered merchant and I do not know if there is better protection in those cases, but my experience has always been that after that limit you're screwed no matter who sold it to you.

Unless it has changed, paypal gives a 60 day window for transaction disputes.

Credit card companies usually off a longer time frame, have seen ranges from 90-180 days depending on the bank backing the card.

Hope that helps.

**CMcG** · 19th December 11, 08:57 AM

That is truly unfortunate

Do you have a legal name for this guy? I'm asking for two reasons, the first is because it would make it easier for you (or the law) to track him down. The second is so you can share it and none of us will be fooled should he show up somewhere else under another alias...

**biblemonkey** · 19th December 11, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by CMcG

That is truly unfortunate

Do you have a legal name for this guy? I'm asking for two reasons, the first is because it would make it easier for you (or the law) to track him down. The second is so you can share it and none of us will be fooled should he show up somewhere else under another alias...

Yes, His name is Daniel Clark and his email is dclark.army@gmail.com.

**Whidbey78** · 19th December 11, 09:16 AM

I almost took him up on his offer as well, but opted out. Too bad you got stuck biblemonkey...hopefully there will be some resolution in the end.

Guys who pull stunts like this make it harder for honest people to do business, in any field. I deal with the aftermath all the time. A few bad apples stink up the whole basket.

**KWD** · 19th December 11, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by biblemonkey

Yes, His name is Daniel Clark and his email is dclark.army@gmail.com.

seriously, you have his name, no doubt can find out where he lives through paypal.. file a criminal report against him with the police in his town.

**KWD** · 19th December 11, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by biblemonkey

Yes, His name is Daniel Clark and his email is dclark.army@gmail.com.

worst part is he uses "army" in this email, this guy should be hung just for that alone, if he truly is in the army, he should be booted out, no one that is that low to rip off a fellow human being should be allowed to associate with the army

**Dale Seago** · 19th December 11, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by KWD

worst part is he uses "army" in this email, this guy should be hung just for that alone, if he truly is in the army, he should be booted out. . .

Unless, of course, he got unexpectedly/suddenly deployed somewhere and is temporarily incommunicado because of that.

**TheBrus** · 19th December 11, 02:57 PM

Last we read, he was trying to get into the army, but was required to lose weight. He was using his kiltmaking hobby to keep his mind off food. Perhaps he was deployed, but he also broke the rules of the forum for advertising without a license--and was duly admonished. Now he takes money from a member and does not produce the goods he promise, nor did he give a refund or timely explanation. Bad form.

**Aspiringloser** · 19th December 11, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by KWD

worst part is he uses "army" in this email, this guy should be hung just for that alone, if he truly is in the army, he should be booted out, no one that is that low to rip off a fellow human being should be allowed to associate with the army

That is still a Gmail account. If it were indeed an army e-mail account it would be daniel.clark@us.army.mil or something similar to that.