New idea for underkilt

[tpa]

Fellows:
So guys, forgett the Geshia girl, the Wimbletown tart &tc and just get a long shirt!
CSA

Aside from night shirts, unless you are happy wandering around during the day in one, where do you get shirts that reach to just above your knee?

As someone with a mild wool allergy, I have had to improvise for most of my kilt wearing life.

[Father Bill]

Many of my better quality clergy and dress shirts come well past my personals column front and back. Just quality shirts, size "tall."

[Riverkilt]

I say again - an underkilt is no more "feminine" than the kilt itself. And as the famous Spanish bullfighter said when he was teased for wearing an apron and being "feminine" when hosting a party he said, "Sir, EVERYTHING I do is masculine."

I have found I have great difficulty sitting in long tailed shirts. They don't give at the waist causing stress as they round the hips....

[CDNSushi]

Not singling you out CDNSushi, yours is just the most recent one I've seen.
My question - How much freedom do we need?

Even though Kilted Cole replied to your question aptly, since you addressed it to me, I thought I would also answer...

Bearing in mind that I have no qualms about wearing something underneath my kilt (and those who read my postings know that I don't give a toss who knows -- it's no secret)... Black, silk boxers are the best I've found, but that's not the point. The point is, when many people (myself included) use the word "freedom," we are referring to having fabric between our legs, creating a barrier of cloth between them. Even silk boxers are attached at the bottom, and it just FEELS different than if that bit of fabric is not there.

Now, I very much like the feel of having nothing but air down there, but realistically I am not willing to do so, for the same reasons that I and others have given both in this thread and others... Hygiene is certainly one, but also, I can't say I exactly LIKE the feel of wool on my bare skin. And I know I'm not the only one who feels that way, because if it were so, wool underwear would be common. Yikes!

That's why the option of some kind of silky, yet unbifurcated underkilt seems like the most reasonable option without resorting to some non-sequitur options, like say... wearing a thong, which may be an option for SOME, (many women are either used to or comfortable wearing them but many men would never ever consider it), or a C-string (which is almost the same thing, PLUS it's a very new concept/item of clothing -- the comfort and practicality of which may be questionable.. But yes, they DO make men's models), or one of those novelty ummm... pouches that occasionally get posted here as a cross-link from someone's eBay auction. Either way, all of these "options" fall squarely into the "questionable" column for most, mainstream kilt wearers.

[Shuteye]

Patagonia's silkweight capilene (expedition fabric which comes in various weights) boxers are awesome. Light as silk, wear like iron, fabric patterns are cool and change regularly. They give me freedom without worrying about exposed stairways or strong winds. http://www.patagonia.com/us/search/m...rc=pkw&netid=2

When not at work, I'm kilted full time and have been for the last year ... boxered when out and about Fresno or California's central coast, commando when the weather is mellow and at home. I have been wearing these boxers for at least 5 years now and they have served my needs well. The material outlasts the high quality elastic waistband. Silk on the other hand has not served me well.

[Jimmy]

Would it be advisable to wear something under the kilt on a 10km walk that I will be walking in a fortnight's time. Any long distance kilt walkers with advice would be welcome

[davidlpope]

Below is a photo showing a pair of the late Duke of Windsor's trousers, with a built-in, yet removable sort of underpants.



I've often thought that if one was inclined to wear undergarments with the kilt, this would be the way to do it- comfortable, cotton panels that would provide a breathable barrier between skin and wool, designed such that the "underwear" moves with the kilt, rather than providing a separate level of elasticized restriction around the waist. In a sense they would mimic the function of extra-long shirt tails. Small snaps or buttons would allow the underkilt/panels to be removed for washing. You'd really only need a back panel attached to the inside rear of the waist and a front panel attached to the interior of the underapron to pull it off...

[Jimmy]

Below is a photo showing a pair of the late Duke of Windsor's trousers, with a built-in, yet removable sort of underpants.



I've often thought that if one was inclined to wear undergarments with the kilt, this would be the way to do it- comfortable, cotton panels that would provide a breathable barrier between skin and wool, designed such that the "underwear" moves with the kilt, rather than providing a separate level of elasticized restriction around the waist. In a sense they would mimic the function of extra-long shirt tails. Small snaps or buttons would allow the underkilt/panels to be removed for washing. You'd really only need a back panel attached to the inside rear of the waist and a front panel attached to the interior of the underapron to pull it off...

something like that would be ideal

[Riverkilt]

YES! Without question. If you allow yourself to hike without a soft underkilt or underwear your "firehelmet" will become most painful from friction against the kilt fabric.

Take it from one who learned the hard way and had to hike back to the trailhead with the kilt tucked up out of the way until reaching the public area of the trailhead and trail and the last few hundred feet were hiked in agony....

[rondo]

I'm thinking of trying these:

http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/s...FUZgTAod4gpF3A

Rondo