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    Not To Throw Gas On The Fire ...

    From todays Telegraph:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-Scotland.html

    #45 "Many of Scotland’s most famous inventions – kilts, tartans and bagpipes - were actually developed elsewhere. Kilts originated in Ireland, tartans have been found in Bronze Age central Europe and bagpipes are thought to have come from ancient central Asia."

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    Re: Native Scots vs the scottish diaspora

    Yeesh, I don't know where to even begin with that one.
    "It's all the same to me, war or peace,
    I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."

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    Re: Not To Throw Gas On The Fire ...

    Quote Originally Posted by seanachie View Post

    Kilts originated in Ireland
    So all this time I've been "playing at being Irish"?

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    Re: Not To Throw Gas On The Fire ...

    Quote Originally Posted by robthehiker View Post
    So all this time I've been "playing at being Irish"?
    There could be worse things to play

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    Re: Not To Throw Gas On The Fire ...

    Quote Originally Posted by robthehiker View Post
    So all this time I've been "playing at being Irish"?
    Don't worry, it's from the “Stand up if you hate Scotland” Daily Telegraph, your USA mag National Enquirer is more factual and accurate.

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    Re: Native Scots vs the scottish diaspora

    Okay sorry to keep this going but I saw this and thought of this thread.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Th...k_-_138919.jpg

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    Re: Not To Throw Gas On The Fire ...

    Quote Originally Posted by seanachie View Post
    From todays Telegraph:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-Scotland.html

    #45 "Many of Scotland’s most famous inventions – kilts, tartans and bagpipes - were actually developed elsewhere. Kilts originated in Ireland, tartans have been found in Bronze Age central Europe and bagpipes are thought to have come from ancient central Asia."
    Albeit this may be a biased newspaper, there is in fact plenty of evidence that the bagpipes did not originate in Scotland.

    The bagpipes are a pastoral instrument that were probably independently "invented" and used by many European cultures (and I'm sure elsewhere). In the north of England for example, piping was/is very prevalent. Not sure where or when the bagpipes arrived in Scotland (some suggest they were in fact from Ireland), it is very possible the Scots independently developed them like so many other cultures. A painting from the 1600's shows the modern form of the Scottish Great Highland Bagpipe...so we know at least that far back.



    The bagpipes really are a world heritage instrument.

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    Re: Not To Throw Gas On The Fire ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dram View Post
    Albeit this may be a biased newspaper, there is in fact plenty of evidence that the bagpipes did not originate in Scotland.

    The bagpipes are a pastoral instrument that were probably independently "invented" and used by many European cultures (and I'm sure elsewhere). In the north of England for example, piping was/is very prevalent. Not sure where or when the bagpipes arrived in Scotland (some suggest they were in fact from Ireland), it is very possible the Scots independently developed them like so many other cultures. A painting from the 1600's shows the modern form of the Scottish Great Highland Bagpipe...so we know at least that far back.



    The bagpipes really are a world heritage instrument.
    Maltese bagpipes are basically a cored out goat skin with the hair on and with drones, chanter and mouthpiece stuck into leg holes or other appropriate orifices. Scarier looking than the Scots variety.

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