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6th April 12, 05:21 PM
#1
I think it is pretty obvious that if a full blown 8 yard tartan traditional kilt is like a pair of formal tuxedo slacks, then the utilikilt type "MUG" is the chain wrapped, studded cargo pants. I think you ought to wear one accordingly. Out in the woods, in a workshop, at a concert? Sure. To a formal event, no way. But as a way of gaining additional kilt acceptance and bringing in younger kilt wearers I think the MUG is invaluable.
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6th April 12, 06:00 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by jason10mm
I think it is pretty obvious that if a full blown 8 yard tartan traditional kilt is like a pair of formal tuxedo slacks, then the utilikilt type "MUG" is the chain wrapped, studded cargo pants. I think you ought to wear one accordingly. Out in the woods, in a workshop, at a concert? Sure. To a formal event, no way. But as a way of gaining additional kilt acceptance and bringing in younger kilt wearers I think the MUG is invaluable.
I would have thought it was the other way round. Many younger people would buy cheaper PV or similar tartan kilts, for going to football etc.
And then maybe go on to buy a ultikilt.
I just can't see people here buying a ultikilt as their first kilt, if at all really.
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6th April 12, 06:47 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by Blackrose87
I would have thought it was the other way round. Many younger people would buy cheaper PV or similar tartan kilts, for going to football etc.
And then maybe go on to buy a ultikilt.
I just can't see people here buying a ultikilt as their first kilt, if at all really.
I agree. At first I purchased cheaper more traditional styles, and then got into the utilities for hiking and such activities. I like the utility style very much, but I still tend to lean to the trads for most activities, including hiking. A hunting style sporran really negates the need for all those pockets, so there's not really a benefit to wearing the modern. It really comes down to my mood on what I'll wear that day.
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6th April 12, 06:24 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by jason10mm
I think it is pretty obvious that if a full blown 8 yard tartan traditional kilt is like a pair of formal tuxedo slacks...
I beg to differ. A traditional tartan kilt is an extremely versatile garment that can be worn a great variety of levels of formality. See these threads:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-attire-46888/
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...xamples-68377/
While one might not wear their most expensive kilt to go to a punk rock concert or tromping about in the forest, that is what an older, more beat up trad is for.
- Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
- An t'arm breac dearg
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6th April 12, 06:54 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by jason10mm
I think it is pretty obvious that if a full blown 8 yard tartan traditional kilt is like a pair of formal tuxedo slacks, then the utilikilt type "MUG" is the chain wrapped, studded cargo pants. I think you ought to wear one accordingly. Out in the woods, in a workshop, at a concert? Sure. To a formal event, no way. But as a way of gaining additional kilt acceptance and bringing in younger kilt wearers I think the MUG is invaluable.
Blackrose was asking about Britain and not Georgia, Jason, so perhaps there's the difference, but the point being made by all of us in GB is that the MUG you are referring to is rarely, if ever seen.
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9th April 12, 04:38 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by jason10mm
a full blown 8 yard tartan traditional kilt is like a pair of formal tuxedo slacks
In traditional Highland Dress this is not true. A traditional wool 8-yard handsewn kilt is a kilt, period, and can be worn at any time of day or night. The jacket, footwear, accessories etc change to match the formality of the event but the kilt can remain unchanged.
A have a collection of old Highland Dress catalogues from the 1920s through 1950s and some do mention different sorts of kilts for Outdoor Dress and Evening Dress, however the difference appears to be only the weight of the fabric.
For example my Paisleys LTD 1936 catalog gives the following
Paisleys 'Argyll' Costume for Gentlemen (the outfit illustrated is what we would call "Day dress")
Tweed Jacket and Vest
Tartan Kilt (Heavy Quality)
Animal or Leather Sporran
Heather Hose
Flashes
Brogues (Lacing)
Paisleys Highland Dress Costume for Gentlemen (the outfit illustrated is what we would call "Evening dress" with a white wing collar shirt and black bow tie)
Full Dress Doublet and Vest, in Green Refine or Black Vicuna with Roll Collar
Tartan Kilt (Light Weight)
Seal Sporran
Tartan Hose
Tartan Ribbon Garters
Brogues, Patent Leather with Buckle
Last edited by OC Richard; 9th April 12 at 04:44 AM.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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