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29th April 12, 10:05 AM
#91
 Originally Posted by Grizzly
Colin please dont get me wrong I am not arguing anything, Just trying to get a better understanding of why we wear what we wear.
Unfortunately the link you posted to Matts website doesnt seem to be working. I will try it again later.
Thank you for taking the time to explain things to me.
No problem 
I just tried to fix the link in my previous post... here it is again as well:
http://albanach.org/neojacobite.html
Last edited by CMcG; 29th April 12 at 10:05 AM.
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29th April 12, 10:24 AM
#92
If you get the connection working, Grizzly, there is Matt Newsome's article "Is the Kilt English?" about the Thomas Rawlinson/feilidh-beag story.
I just reread it, seeing it at the link CMcG provided, to refresh my memory about the story of the English inventing the kilt that you brought up earlier.
* I just figured out what was wrong with my link. The word "english" at the provided address was missing a "g." If I get a chance, I will tell Matt. Here is the corrected link to the article I mentioned:
http://www.albanach.org/kilt_english.html
Last edited by Bugbear; 29th April 12 at 11:07 AM.
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29th April 12, 10:31 AM
#93
I have a few in various colours and I enjoy wearing them whenever we're out hiking around the trails, or when I want to make the tourists here get camera happy.
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29th April 12, 10:32 AM
#94
was told the english invented sand , ice, Mackintoshes,tarmac, the sun the universe. Realsitically , once upon a time, we all wore basically the same. Jeans and T shirts LOL
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29th April 12, 10:44 AM
#95
Excellent and thank you for mending the broken link. It is always nice to know that our knowledge can be advanced by this forum and its members.
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29th April 12, 11:57 AM
#96
I was under the impression that Ghillie shirts became popular in the 70's after being worn as stage performance gear by the Scottish Folk Group The Corries.

As seen here... I assume everyone made the connection of 'Scottish Group, must be a Scottish shirt, I want one'.
Edit: Hehehe... and as for the English inventing the Kilt. I've been told off for perpetuating that malicious lie before. (If anyone remembers my introductory first post here )
Edit 2: The Corries also did this by the way...
Flower Of Scotland: The Corries (Written By Roy Williamson). It's even got guitar chords so you can strum along at home.
[A]Oh flower of Scotland
When will we[E] see
Your like a[A]gain
That[D] fought and[A] died for
Your[E] wee bit hill and[A] glen
[D]And stood a[A]gainst him
Proud Edward's[D] army
And[A] sent him homeward
Tae[E] think a[A]gain
The hills are bare now
And autumn leaves lie thick and still
O'er land that is lost now
Which those so dearly held
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again
Those days are passed now
And in the past they must remain
But we can still rise now
And be the nation again
That stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again
Repeat Chorus As Many Times As You Want
It's been suggested this song should be the National Anthem for Scotland. By my judgement and as far as the Tartan Army is concerned, it already is!
Excellent stuff.
Last edited by English Bloke; 29th April 12 at 12:12 PM.
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29th April 12, 02:29 PM
#97
The "Jacobite" shirts are supposed to represent men's shirts of the late 17th to early 18th centuries, hence the name. I can't see any reason to wear one unless you're actually donning a historic outfit of the period (something I do quite often!). But, the pattern isn't correct. Men's shirts of that era, including those of Highlanders, looked like this:

The pattern is a simple one, and is comprised of a bunch of rectangles:
Brian
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29th April 12, 03:36 PM
#98
Wow, if that's an accurate historical garment, thank God for a bit of historical inaccuracy is all I can say! Makes the voluminous-ness of the current 'jacobite' shirts look positively restrained.
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29th April 12, 05:04 PM
#99
That is accurate, actually. The length is so it can be used as an undergarment.
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29th April 12, 05:14 PM
#100
A fellow clansman from Aberdeen used to wear one whenever we were at the games, and I started wearing one because I liked the look.
I've had two over the years--all have been lost--but I still like them. They are comfortable and stylish whether you like the style or not.
P.S. I don't really care whether anyone else likes it or not.
Last edited by thescot; 29th April 12 at 05:17 PM.
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