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    Honored with a 20th century legendary blade

    We recently had to move my Dad into an assisted living facility. As part of the living agreement no weapons are allowed. Dad remembered he had a knife in his USMC foot locker. Now for some history, Dad was recalled for the Korean War and served as an instructor at San Diego. He remembers the base received about two gross of a British fightng knife to see if it might become regular issue for the Marine Corps. Fast forward I am now the owner of a vintage Fairbairn Sykes Commando Knife. Dad had no idea about the history of this knife and it has been stored for over 50 years in his foot locker.
    This would be an interesting dirk.

    Kevin Cernoch
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    I believe the dagger was first introduced in 1941 and issued to the Royal Marines, don't know if they had any official connection with any Highland regiments
    Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers

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    NWC,
    That is awesome,I know this knife and it's history/development.You have something there and it sounds like you know it.
    IMHO it would make a fine dirk.
    KILTED LABOWSKI

    "I imagine a place of brotherhood and peace, a world without war. Then I imagine attacking that place because they would never expect it.

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    A fine blade

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    I think the 7" blade is a bit short for a dirk and I believe that a dagger, being twin bladed, would be out of context as such. You have a fine piece of history there, I would leave it and value it just as it is.
    Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt View Post
    I think the 7" blade is a bit short for a dirk and I believe that a dagger, being twin bladed, would be out of context as such. You have a fine piece of history there, I would leave it and value it just as it is.
    I agree with that. And all honor to your father!!

    (BTW, my own dad moved into a "retirement community" with my mom a year or so ago in Colorado; actually I'd call it a "retirement resort". He's of the same generation, a survivor of both Saipan and Iwo Jima. I began to follow in his footsteps by enlisting in the Corps; but after that enlistment I fell to the Dark Side and got a commission in the army.)
    "It's all the same to me, war or peace,
    I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt View Post
    I believe the dagger was first introduced in 1941 and issued to the Royal Marines, don't know if they had any official connection with any Highland regiments
    (Slight tangent due to some of my own personal research for a friend upon the passing of his father in 2010, I know you said "Highland Regiments" but I wanted to place context regarding an American Marine having a British fighting knife...)

    Prior to the creation of the K-BAR USMC Fighting knife, certain US Marines (especially Raiders) carried and used the Fairbairn-Sykes. Eventually they even had their own USMC, replicas of the style made - as this one, carried by my best friend's father through the volcanic sand of Iwo Jima:



    And a little snippet from Wikipedia regarding how this whole thing came about...
    "The history of the U.S. Marine Raider Stiletto began at the Commando Training Centre in Achnacarry, Scotland. The stiletto was patterned after the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife, which was in use at the centre before the arrival of the Marine Raiders."

    The FB is a bit longer, so I'm sure it would suffice better as a Dirk. This particular knife is too long to be a sgian dubh, and too small to be a dirk.
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    No doubt you know the "broad arrow" stamp is the British Ministry of Defence(MOD) and anything and everything of theirs had this stamp. Now the "42" could be the year date(1942), but I suspect could probably be a unit stamp of 42(pronounced Four Two) Commando, Royal Marines.

    Fairbairn and Sykes were interesting chaps, both were policemen from Shanghai, who were, of necessity, close quarter fighting experts, trained in coping with the drug dens of that then notorious City. They wrote several very interesting "papers" and training manuals, and I am told, rarely far away from the Commando training areas during WW2.

    I can just remember some American Rangers during WW2 training here with our Commandos. The Rangers and many from other countries who trained around here are remembered here at the Commando Memorial. Of interest, live rounds were always used during training and even now we have our Bomb Disposal teams regularly turn up to dispose of some sort of ordinance that has been found. We had them here last week!

    The Commando Memorial at Spean Bridge, right in the centre of their training ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua View Post
    (Slight tangent due to some of my own personal research for a friend upon the passing of his father in 2010, I know you said "Highland Regiments" but I wanted to place context regarding an American Marine having a British fighting knife...)

    Prior to the creation of the K-BAR USMC Fighting knife, certain US Marines (especially Raiders) carried and used the Fairbairn-Sykes. Eventually they even had their own USMC, replicas of the style made - as this one, carried by my best friend's father through the volcanic sand of Iwo Jima:



    And a little snippet from Wikipedia regarding how this whole thing came about...
    "The history of the U.S. Marine Raider Stiletto began at the Commando Training Centre in Achnacarry, Scotland. The stiletto was patterned after the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife, which was in use at the centre before the arrival of the Marine Raiders."

    The FB is a bit longer, so I'm sure it would suffice better as a Dirk. This particular knife is too long to be a sgian dubh, and too small to be a dirk.
    The Marine raider, the OSS stilletto and the Commando all had 7" blades. The OSS and Marine were made of inferior quatlity metals, infact, the metals in the Marine used to disolve themselves in some weird chemical reaction. See http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artikla...ine_raider.htm for more info and plenty on the original Commando
    Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers

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    It is indeed legendary...




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