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Originally Posted by brewerpaul
What is under my kilt will obviously be my choice and I usually am good with my choices. The next issue is packing my kilt and gear and hoping it makes it in one piece. Not owning a nice kilt roller I have an old heavy duty suit carrier. You know the kind that fold in the center with the hangers inside. I guess that will have to be my mode of transport and check in for baggage. Ive used it to carry kilts in my car but this will be different. Im not taking my tank but I value all my kilts and want them in good shape. Any shared experiences here?
I've found both the original and (larger) wheeled versions of this useful on trips to Colorado and Japan respectively:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...t-three-65828/
Last edited by Dale Seago; 2nd May 12 at 09:05 PM.
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"It's all the same to me, war or peace,
I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."
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I flew into and out from Boston kilted when travelling to and from the New Hampshire Games in 2010. No problems whatsoever with the TSA regarding the kilt.
After I arrived home and opened my luggage there was a note inside my suitcase which said they had opened it to inspect the contents and were not liable for any damage. The only item missing was my Highland Games programme. I can only assume either one of the TSA guys whipped it as a souvenir or it accidentally fell out and was only re-discovered after the case had been re-sealed. Happily another Xmarker who had been at the games mailed to me another copy of the programme.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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Originally Posted by bigdad1
I am always confused when the question to go sans underwear in situations like flying or going to church or other non-traditional kilting environments is asked. Wanting to be comfortable is one thing but having a disregard for public concerns is another. It isn't up to me to give anyone a lesson in anatomy before they are ready for one. Nor to titilate that elderly woman in line with me. Doing something just because you can doesn't make doing it right. Wearing a favorite tee-shirt that has a dirty saying on it just because we think it is clever doesn't mean we have the right to make someone else read that saying.
That being said it is your choice so just make sure you can abide the possible results.
Ditto
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Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt
Women have been wearing skirts and dresses for years when in aircraft as passengers, even after increased security, as well as all the other situations where some Kilties attend. Why is there such a who hah about men being searched, falling over, ascending/decending flights of stairs. I have never heard so much twaddle over what people should wear and when, under their street clothes, surely it's up to the individual and has nothing to do with anyone else. This issue comes up every now and then and always ends up with buts and what if
A GIANT *** for my friend in Australia!!!
My experience flying kilted was that the buckles did set off the bells and whistles which required a manual pat down. In the airports I traveled through they did not use wands to fine tune the search as they do in other tight security areas of old (court house etc). At the point that they realized they were going to pat me down they asked if I wanted it to be done behind a screened in area specifically set up for that purpose. I declined, the staff were very professional, explaining each action they were about to take, prior to taking it. If that sort of thing is uncomfortable to you, consider doing your proposed routine in reverse. Wear short pants to the airport, carry the kilt and put the kilt on in the men's room following the search station, then put the short pants in your carry on.
And above all else, have a safe and enjoyable trip!
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Flown kilted a bunch. Best tip I got for the buckles was to walk through the beeper thingie sideways.
I don't wear a long pin type kilt pin when I fly. Use a short double pin kilt pin like the X Marks pin, and I take it off and put it with my sporran when going through TSA. I reattach it on the other side of security.
I've never worn underwear when flying and its never been a problem with TSA. Kilts, like ladies in skirts, are routine for TSA now. Worst I've had happen was a quick wanding due to a beep. Sometimes the TSA guys give a kilt compliment.
With todays "Sardine Seating" kilts are a most comfortable way to fly - and you'll be glad you did.
And don't be surprised if the female flight attendants come by to chat you up.
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Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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Dale:
Interesting comment, because I have had issues with the TSA at SFO (I am in LA). Flying in and out of SFO I have been stopped and required to go through secondary screening when kilted. Asking questions on this I have received answers that were inconsistent and wrong "it's the rules if you have a kilt on for one." My last trip I had my wife observe as I passed through and they seemed to be itching for me to be confrontational. When doing the secondary screeing the TSA employee was heckled and did a substandard check as a result. (I too have security experience)
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You can't legislate intelligence.
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I've only had one kilted pat-down, not at SFO; and it went exactly as Brooke described. I've also been complimented on the kilt by TSA screeners.
"It's all the same to me, war or peace,
I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."
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Flying in and out of SFO I have been stopped and required to go through secondary screening when kilted.
Only place I ever had this problem was LAX.
Perhaps its a California thing.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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Flown out of LAX twice in the past two years and never a problem being kilted. Go figure.
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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