Any Welsh Speakers Here?

[Teufel Hunden]

I'm coming along in my basic speaking of Welsh, but reading it and knowing how to pronounce things is still alien to me.

Is there anyone here who knows how to pronounce this phrase and could spell it out in layman's terms for me? It would be much appreciated.

The phrase is: Y cadarn a’r cyfrwys. Which is "The Mighty and Cunning." I've tried to google it, but haven't turned up anything terribly useful.

[Grizzly]

Teufel

it depends which part of Wales you come from as there are different accents even in Wales and regional variations on pronounciation but my best shot would be -

ee cadahn arrr (rolling the R sound) cuff-froo-wees

[Duke of Delrio]

Teufel,

I can't spell it out phonetically, but I once overdosed on snuff and the sneeze came out just like that!

[guardsman]

last part i would say is CUFF ROYCE, as in a rolls royce

[Grizzly]

Theres lovely - thats dialects for you even between Abertillery and Porthcawl

[Teufel Hunden]

Teufel

it depends which part of Wales you come from as there are different accents even in Wales and regional variations on pronounciation but my best shot would be -

ee cadahn arrr (rolling the R sound) cuff-froo-wees

last part i would say is CUFF ROYCE, as in a rolls royce

Thanks for the replies! My early guesses were somewhat correct, so it's good to have clarification.

Teufel,

I can't spell it out phonetically, but I once overdosed on snuff and the sneeze came out just like that!

This seems accurate, as early as I am in my studies.

[McClef]

Love that picture!

Y cadarn a’r cyfrwys my take (from the Abertillery end) is Uh kadarn ah kuvrois (as in boys)

[Lime]

Just "lilt" confidently, add an unexpected stress, gather some phlegm in your throat, add a "boyo" then switch to English whilst staring angrily at any "new-comer" and you will be mistaken for a native... just kidding some of my best friends are Welsh. As to the pronunciation I am afraid I can't help.

[Pleater]

I think you've got it.

I used to visit Wales on a narrow boat - over the pont cysyllte aquaduct, and I got a bit of Welsh, but my Yorkshire accent was stronger then and I used to bring tears to the eyes of those who heard me mangling their language.

Same with my Italian.

Harsh northern vowels.

Oh deary deary me - mind you that was back when you'd walk into some shops and everyone would switch to speaking Welsh - it was amazing how rapidly they acquired enough English for the transaction of business when I tried to join in.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

[chrisupyonder]

Learn how to pronounce this and you will be able to speak anything in Welsh... We used to holiday in North Wales several times a year for over 30 years but I never learned Welsh.

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch

There is audio here..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

Chris.