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21st June 12, 11:18 AM
#11
Deirachel, on at least one point you are mistaken, and it may be that you are also on one or two others.
As you say, the present Duke of Edinburgh was born a prince of Greece, and so had all the appurtenances of royalty from birth.
However, when he resigned his titles on the eve of becoming engaged, he had only his naval rank to fall back on: he was Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten, RN.
I know of no knighthood that was conferred on him at the time. Of course he is now a Garter knight and a member of several other orders.
He remained without princely title until the Queen created him a prince of the realm in 1957. (Strange how clear that recollection is: I was only eight years old at the time.) It would not have been necessary for her to do so had her father granted him that status while still alive.
Regards,
Mike
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life.
[Proverbs 14:27]
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22nd June 12, 08:33 PM
#12
He was made a Knight of the Garter, then His Royal Highness, before he was created Duke. In that order.
The pertinent announcement in the London Gazette. (requires a PDF reader) Note, it's listed before the Announcement of his Titles. (Very bottom of the page, top of the next.) Additionally, compare HRH's name as listed in the first announcement then to the second announcement.
"Lieutenant Sir Philip Mountbatten, K.G., R.N., shall be entitled to hold and enjoy the title, style and attribute of ROYAL
HIGHNESS."
then his name in the next announcement:
"Lieutenant His Royal Highness Sir Philip Mountbatten, K.G., R.N."
Therefore, HRH was made a Knight Companion before he was given the style Royal Highness, then was awarded his Dukedom.
And, I did specifically mention he was made Prince in 1957. Nevertheless, he was still "His Royal Highness" well before he was a Prince of the United Kingdom, and in fact, was HRH before he was duke.
Additionally, from the official website of the Royal family:
"Shortly before the wedding, the bridegroom was created Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich with the style of His Royal Highness and appointed a Knight of the Garter by the King."
Sorry.
Death before Dishonor -- Nothing before Coffee
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione
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24th June 12, 12:32 PM
#13
Well, Deirachel, it seems I was much too reliant on sources that did not state these further details. My thanks to you for the link to the London Gazette.
I should mention, though, that when I looked Prince Philip up on the royal website, I found no reference to his Garter knighthood being awarded in the year of his marriage, and mention of him (following his resignation of titles previously held) only as Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten, RN.
Regards,
Mike
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life.
[Proverbs 14:27]
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