Glen, neither Rufus or I will catch Hamish with name-dropping or kilt numbers, not a hope!

I have 5 now with my new USA kilt, but it's not what you have, but what you do with what you have that counts.

hey, that sounds rather good, I might quote myself there

One observation, the belt loops on my traditional will not accommodate a 'traditional' belt, the will only take a 1.5" belt.

It's not a big worry since I rarely wear the wider belts now, but just a thought.