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    Quote Originally Posted by MacSpadger View Post
    This was a popular view from the 1760's to the 1960's where the main source of this was Bede retelling Geoffrey of Monmouth. There was no real evidence to support this. Even as far back as 1845 historians such as J. M. Lappenberg were publishing books saying it was all nonsense. Even if you refer to where Geoffrey took hin info from, the Irish Annals of Tigernach, it states Feargus Mor mac Earca cum gente Dal Riada partem Britaniae tenuit, et ibi mortuus est, (Fergus Mór mac Eirc, with the people of Dál Riata, held part of Britain, and he died there.) This section of the Annals appears to have been written about 500 to 600 years after this supposed event, it's not part of the original document and it's been made doubtful that such names existed in their written forms at that earlier time.
    But, regardless of it being a forgery or not, note it doesn't mention Scotland, only Britain.
    A more modern view of what is being taught in Scotland today can be found summarised fairly well here. http://www.electricscotland.com/hist...scotsirish.htm
    No invasion from the Gaelic Irish, no Irish settlers, just a group of different peoples living in the extreme North West of Europe but with similar languages, customs and cultures.
    Among other texts I've read recently, Magnus Magnusson, in Scotland, the Story of a Nation pub. 2003 states categorically that the Gaels came from Ireland. I am not an historian (other than a love for it), so I cannot claim that he's correct or not. I simply mention it to show that (a) I didn't make it up whole cloth, and (b)it is a theory that has not been thoroughly debunked, and is still a currently viable one. The problem with history is that it is mostly opinions, and they vary. Unfortunately, I wasn't there when Scotland was peopled (I doubt you were either, but can't say for certain), so I can only go on what I've read from others who are better read than I.

    Thanks for the link, though, I'll look through it.
    Last edited by fcgeil; 11th August 12 at 08:57 AM.

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