all man-made sporran?

**OC Richard** · 17th August 12, 05:39 AM

Hey rabble, on another site there was a query from a piper opposed to the use of any animal products.

He's looking for anything kilt-related that doesn't have any leather, wool, etc in it.

I immediately thought of the Nightstalker sporran but it's leather trimmed!

Any fully man-made sporrans out there? Kilt hose? Ghillies? Bonnets?

I would guess that he would be safe with a polyviscose kilt, as long as the leather straps were replaced.

For his pipes he can use a GoreTex bag etc.

Thanks for helping out a fellow piper!

**artificer** · 17th August 12, 06:42 AM

For ghillies there are those odd, foam, Croc-like ones, but I don't think the reviews have been too favorable. Here's the link

There is a website for Vegan sporrans, called VeganSporrans, but I'm not overly impressed with their offerings. My guess is that if he wanted something a bit nicer it would have to be custom made.

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edit: finally found the link for the foam ghillies

**CMcG** · 17th August 12, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Any fully man-made sporrans out there? Kilt hose? Ghillies? Bonnets?

For ghillies, there are "ghillators," which are made out of the same material as Crocs. Sport Kilt has them:
http://www.sportkilt.com/product/9181/Ghillators.html

As for a sporran, I once attended a Burns Night with a vegan fellow who made his own from pleather and fun-fur.

**Father Bill** · 17th August 12, 07:04 AM

... and then there are those who refuse to use synthetics, preferring natural because synthetics are the product of polluting processes.

Some days, ya' canna win fer losin'!

**CMcG** · 17th August 12, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Father Bill

... and then there are those who refuse to use synthetics, preferring natural because synthetics are the product of polluting processes.

Some days, ya' canna win fer losin'!

Aye, Father. People are always cutting off their nose to spite their face.

**Big Mikey** · 17th August 12, 07:34 AM

I know that L&M offers non-hide sporrans but not sure if they use any leather. Just had a quick look at their website and they offer faux seal but with leather tassels. They may be able to swap them out for something else.

**Singlemalt** · 17th August 12, 07:47 AM

I have to comment that I just don't get the thinking of people who feel they are doing the right thing by seeking out products made from materials which are made by polluting industries and from diminishing non-renewable resources instead of traditional products like leather and wool which are natural, renewable and a valuable byproduct of food production.

I doubt that anyone with a vinyl sporran grew up on a farm.

**knotty** · 17th August 12, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Singlemalt

I have to comment that I just don't get the thinking of people who feel they are doing the right thing by seeking out products made from materials which are made by polluting industries and from diminishing non-renewable resources instead of traditional products like leather and wool which are natural, renewable and a valuable byproduct of food production.

I doubt that anyone with a vinyl sporran grew up on a farm.

I can understand (not really) if someone doesnt want to wear parts of dead animals. Im sure its quite traumatizing for sheep to walk around nikid after its sheared.

**Chas** · 17th August 12, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by knotty

I can understand (not really) if someone doesnt want to wear parts of dead animals. Im sure its quite traumatizing for sheep to walk around nikid after its sheared.

There has been more than one study done on this. The shearing is done at a time when the sheep is naturally shedding. In nature they go from being hot and bothered and thirsty by wearing a coat and a 1/2 for a month, which slowly reduces down to 3/4 coat. By shearing, they go from hot and bothered to cool within a couple of minutes. All studies, so far, say that the stress levels of the sheep do not go up, either during sheering or afterwards.

The thing to remember is that the sheep are being sheared, not shaved.

Regards

Chas

**SlackerDrummer** · 17th August 12, 10:31 AM

Vegetarian Sporrans seem to be much nicer than the vegan ones. As a vegetarian, though, I don't have much of an issue with leather products. The animals are being killed not for their hides, which are a by product and would simply be refuse were they not used for something. Better to use as much of the animal as possible if it's going to die anyway.