Is this the end of special order cloth?

**Downunder Kilt** · 21st August 12, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Seago

Hmm. Under the circumstances, I don't see a second run of the R'lyeh Sett happening anytime soon.

As I understand it there was over 100 yards ordered last time and if a similiar amount was ordered in the future then the cost should not be more than GBP1.00-1.50 per yard more than the original order, so maybe GBP10.00 for a 8 yard length

**M. A. C. Newsome** · 21st August 12, 07:45 PM

Just FYI, if anyone is interested in ordering custom woven cloth from Dalgliesh retail, and would rather deal with a US retailer to avoid possible customs fees, you can source the cloth either through the STM giftshop or myself. Just follow the links.

**Spartan Tartan** · 21st August 12, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt

As I understand it there was over 100 yards ordered last time and if a similiar amount was ordered in the future then the cost should not be more than GBP1.00-1.50 per yard more than the original order, so maybe GBP10.00 for a 8 yard length

from.what others have said, I do not believe you are correct. For a custom weave it is 105 pounds per yard. NOT the setup fee divided by total run....so in effect that 8 yards would be 840 pounds!!! And thaf is just material. then it needs to be shipped and the kilt maker needs to be paid....

i do, however, stand to be corrected on my math.

**Downunder Kilt** · 21st August 12, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Spartan Tartan

from.what others have said, I do not believe you are correct. For a custom weave it is 105 pounds per yard. NOT the setup fee divided by total run....so in effect that 8 yards would be 840 pounds!!! And thaf is just material. then it needs to be shipped and the kilt maker needs to be paid....

i do, however, stand to be corrected on my math.

Set up fee is quoted as being GBP100-150 for a run of tartan depending on material. If you have a run of 100yards you divide that cost by the total yardage and it gives you the extra you would have to pay per yard
eg. 100 yards by a GBP100 is an extra pound per yard you would have to pay on top of the usual yardage charge. What I was getting at is that for a run of over one hundred yards you would only be paying about a pound more per yard

**seanachie** · 21st August 12, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome

That was a problem with me, as it turns out, as the price increase was announced immediately after their two week holiday. As it happened, I took a few kilt orders during that mill holiday; I gave price quotes and collected payment based on the former prices, but will have to pay for the cloth myself with the new pricing. Sigh. It happens.

That really is bad form. I work for an e-commerce company and have a retail and wholesale division, no way we would get away with doing something like that. It goes against our customer service approach to partnerships, not to mention we would lose business doing things in such a way.

**figheadair** · 21st August 12, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Seago

Hmm. Under the circumstances, I don't see a second run of the R'lyeh Sett happening anytime soon.

Or the Culloden reconstruction so those that jumped in last year got a bargin :-).

**M. A. C. Newsome** · 22nd August 12, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by Spartan Tartan

from.what others have said, I do not believe you are correct. For a custom weave it is 105 pounds per yard. NOT the setup fee divided by total run....so in effect that 8 yards would be 840 pounds!!! And thaf is just material. then it needs to be shipped and the kilt maker needs to be paid....

i do, however, stand to be corrected on my math.

When you look at the Dalgliesh web site and see the price quotes for the special weave tartan (which currently show as £105.16 / yard for single width 15 oz wool, with a 4.4 yard minimum order) what you are looking at are the Scotweb retail prices. Remember that Dalgliesh does not sell retail, only to trade accounts, so retail sales from their site are redirected to Scotweb.

The price changes (including the loom set-up fees) that Peter is talking about are in their trade prices, which of course will affect retail pricing, but some retailers will choose to handle it in different ways. For example, if you look at my web site, you will see I would charge you a single set-up fee to do the custom run, and then a per-yard cost after that, which just makes sense to me because that is how I would be charged by the mill.

I just want people to be aware that there are two different pricing schedules being discussed here -- Dalgliesh's trade prices and Scotweb's retail prices.

**figheadair** · 22nd August 12, 11:43 AM

Good point Matt. I will probably price special orders similarly.

**Spartan Tartan** · 22nd August 12, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt

Set up fee is quoted as being GBP100-150 for a run of tartan depending on material. If you have a run of 100yards you divide that cost by the total yardage and it gives you the extra you would have to pay per yard
eg. 100 yards by a GBP100 is an extra pound per yard you would have to pay on top of the usual yardage charge. What I was getting at is that for a run of over one hundred yards you would only be paying about a pound more per yard

Ahhhhh. got it. thanks. i was thinking on the single kilt length scale of order.