Interesting Article on Pakistani Bagpipes

[Meggers]

When you say "Pakistani pipes" do you mean a Pakistani style of bagpipe that differs from the Scottish or bagpipes made in Pakistan? Or both. lol.

[Thomas H]

Pakistani made Scottish type pipes made in Pakistani ,
I am raking my brian , I mean they look the same and I am reading all these post and Pipe band web sites.
The only thing I see as being different is the appearances , and I do not care if the wood is rough . But I guess they are different , so I do not know .
I really want a set of Pipes and I can not pay the higher price so I will just bang my head on the table some more LOL

[Friday]

Thank you for the information

[castledangerous]

What would you do with them if you had them?

Pakistani made Scottish type pipes made in Pakistani ,
I am raking my brian , I mean they look the same and I am reading all these post and Pipe band web sites.
The only thing I see as being different is the appearances , and I do not care if the wood is rough . But I guess they are different , so I do not know .
I really want a set of Pipes and I can not pay the higher price so I will just bang my head on the table some more LOL

[Thomas H]

I would try my best to play , I would more then likely not do good at first but I believe that if I tryed , I could learn to play .

If I could not play after trying to learn then , I am not out alot of money and I would
Hang them on the wall

[haukehaien]

Pakistani made Scottish type pipes made in Pakistani ,
I am raking my brian , I mean they look the same and I am reading all these post and Pipe band web sites.
The only thing I see as being different is the appearances , and I do not care if the wood is rough . But I guess they are different , so I do not know .
I really want a set of Pipes and I can not pay the higher price so I will just bang my head on the table some more LOL

The appearance is the only thing that you can see to be different in pictures. Having played both Pakistani-made and Dunbar pipes, I will tell you that there is a huge difference in the way they play. Pakistani pipes will have some or all of the following characteristics:

1) Chanters that are poorly bored, so that the sound is muffled and rough
2) Chanters that are poorly drilled so that the chanter is not in tune, and cannot be made to be in tune without extensive work
3) A bag that is leaky, badly shaped (making it difficult to play) and which may harbor parasites
4) Chanter reeds that are so poorly made that they will only squawk, not play musical tones
5) Drones that are poorly bored so that they will not sound good - if they sound at all. (There have been several cases of drones that were not bored all the way through.)
6) Drones that cannot be tuned - and if they can, will not stay in tune
7) Drones that are bored narrow and rough, so that they are muffled and thin sounding
8) Drone reeds that won't sound, or that won't sound properly
9) Drone reed seats that are too small for proper reeds.
10) A blowstick that is too narrow to allow the bag to be inflated properly
11) A blowstick valve that makes blowing even more difficult
12) a blowstick that is too long, resulting in awkward posture/difficult playing
13) A mouthpiece that is too narrow and poorly shaped, making it impossible to get a good seal and properly fill the bag

They really aren't any good at all. If you just want to waste $150 on piping, send it to me. Our band could get our Christmas parade bag covers embroidered with something festive.

[Thomas H]

The appearance is the only thing that you can see to be different in pictures. Having played both Pakistani-made and Dunbar pipes, I will tell you that there is a huge difference in the way they play. Pakistani pipes will have some or all of the following characteristics:

1) Chanters that are poorly bored, so that the sound is muffled and rough
2) Chanters that are poorly drilled so that the chanter is not in tune, and cannot be made to be in tune without extensive work
3) A bag that is leaky, badly shaped (making it difficult to play) and which may harbor parasites
4) Chanter reeds that are so poorly made that they will only squawk, not play musical tones
5) Drones that are poorly bored so that they will not sound good - if they sound at all. (There have been several cases of drones that were not bored all the way through.)
6) Drones that cannot be tuned - and if they can, will not stay in tune
7) Drones that are bored narrow and rough, so that they are muffled and thin sounding
8) Drone reeds that won't sound, or that won't sound properly
9) Drone reed seats that are too small for proper reeds.
10) A blowstick that is too narrow to allow the bag to be inflated properly
11) A blowstick valve that makes blowing even more difficult
12) a blowstick that is too long, resulting in awkward posture/difficult playing
13) A mouthpiece that is too narrow and poorly shaped, making it impossible to get a good seal and properly fill the bag

They really aren't any good at all. If you just want to waste $150 on piping, send it to me. Our band could get our Christmas parade bag covers embroidered with something festive.

Oh Ok never mind then

[bikercelt1]

Being a new Bagpipe player I'd say listen to the other folks advice. You don't start with the pipes anyway. Get a good practice chanter and, even more importantly, find a good teacher. Bagpipe is not an instrument you should try to learn on your own. I've been playing various instruments since I was in grade school and the Bagpipe is the hardest thing I've ever tried to play but the satisfaction when I learned circular breating and proper articulation made it all worth every frustration. Get a practice chanter and a teacher and the pipes will follow in good time.

Jamie

[Thomas H]

Being a new Bagpipe player I'd say listen to the other folks advice. You don't start with the pipes anyway. Get a good practice chanter and, even more importantly, find a good teacher. Bagpipe is not an instrument you should try to learn on your own. I've been playing various instruments since I was in grade school and the Bagpipe is the hardest thing I've ever tried to play but the satisfaction when I learned circular breating and proper articulation made it all worth every frustration. Get a practice chanter and a teacher and the pipes will follow in good time.

Jamie

Yes I agree , I do not know what I was thinking, I guess just seeing the pipes had me in a fog and I thought I wanted to play , but not now , after reading on all day I find it just is not for me or any one with Bills to pay , I can hardly keep up , So I will bow out for now
May be in a another Life

[castledangerous]

As I have said, as have millions before me: You don't learn on bagpipes, you learn on the practice chanter. And if you tried to learn on bagpipes, instead of the chanter, your chances of learning would drop astronomically. To say nothing of the fact that you would find it very difficult to learn without an instructor. But that story has been told, ad infinitum. Just do a search

I would try my best to play , I would more then likely not do good at first but I believe that if I tryed , I could learn to play .

If I could not play after trying to learn then , I am not out alot of money and I would
Hang them on the wall